I'll not hold my breath waiting for Andy to explain in clear terms what

he means. Because he doesn't believe in accepted measurements, but some
form of 'magic' ventured Plowman.

Don't be so quick to dismiss magic as a human phenomenon - it's an
interesting subject of study. I owe some interest in it to my friend
Jerry Sadowitz who wrote the forward to my book "This Virtual Life -
Escapism and Simulation in our Media World" (Fusion Press, 2001) .
Magic is found in pp 18 to 22, together with Illusion, Paranormal
Psychology, the Psychology of Deception and the magician as escapist.
It is no surprise for me to find you routinely dismissive of some of
the more interesting aspects of human behaviour - others like to keep a
more open mind to psychological aspects of our social interactions.