In article , Floyd L. Davidson
writes
tony sayer wrote:
In article , Floyd L. Davidson
writes
They seem to do things differently over there Floyd, my friend who works
for a Telco here reckons that if they get 80 working pairs out of a
newly installed 100 pair their doing well;!.

Over here when a cable is 30 years old we might accept having
only 80% of the pairs usable.

And you know what? Given the cost of copper, I don't think it
is any different over there. Whoever is telling you these
things is either not speaking clearly, is pulling your leg, or
isn't too bright.

All due to employing subbies who sub out and then sub some more;(.

He said they didn't measure things like signal to noise ratios and such
anymore as they don't need to its all going digital anyway and digital
is perceived as "perfect" so no need!........

You friend is neither a technician nor an engineer. He sounds
like a lineman or an installer. Which is to say that he clearly
doesn't understand either how it works, or what the test
equipment he uses is actually doing.

Errmm... No he's not an engineer. They don't have "them" anymore;-(.
You may not know it but most UK industry is run by accountants these
days. Once the mighty BBC had an engineering director.. they don't
nowadays. They have bull**** speak mongers. Engineers are shat on from a
great height, and are treated like dirt, thats why a lot went over
there, brain drain we called it;(.

No self respecting UK parent who wanted their son or daughter to do well
would have them do engineering. Law, Accountancy, medicine or the civil
service are all the "Professions". Engineers?, no way!..

No the one I'm referring to is a technician who does know their system
inside out, and is very good at what he does but he won't be there next
round of redundancies and job cuts, as the management don't think they
need him!.

You haven't seen what some of the subbies get up to. Suppose over there
you have your own in house people.

They don't do that here;((


Trust me, they measure signal to noise... in *some* way. But
installers generally have a little idiot proof box that gets
plugged in and does all the tests automatically, and then turns
on a red, a yellow, or a green light. He has no idea what it
did.

Yes they do have such go-nogo devices...

Keep in mind that the original Bell System here in the US was
reputed to have been "Designed by geniuses, to be operated by
idiots". Particularly in the outside plant area that has not
changed at all...

I've always joked that because the Bell System hired all the
genius engineers, here in Alaska the telephone system was
instead designed by idiots, and required geniuses to operate
it! And in fact, due to the remote locations and distances
involved, that actually was true to a great degree. :-)


Humm... Over there?.. Over here?.....

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Tony Sayer