In article , Keith G
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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Hence I find the implication that Vinyl has 'won' rather odd...

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You're making the same mistake as the Twisted Sisters - the Vinyl Wars
raged *here* in ukra and the 'win' is the fact that posters can now
occasionally post vinyl topics here without the mile-long 'vinyl
bashing' ****fests which were the norm a year or two (or three?) ago.

I must admit I haven't recalled anything like this which I'd regard as a
'Vinyl War'. I also wouldn't call it a 'win' for 'Vinyl' to simply feel
able to post your views. Although you might feel it was a personal 'win', I
don't see that as being one for 'Vinyl' as such. On that basis you might
just as easily say "CD has won some 'war'" because I and others are happy
to post comments about it here...


Although, it's interesting to see that he had to twist the historic
(ukra) essence of vinyl vs. CD to 'AV products' and try to broaden his
scope enough to disguise the fact that CD sales per se are dropping
like stones, whilst vinyl sales (particularly 7" singles, I gather) are
being reported as being on the increase...??

Set me wondering what the figures may be. My impression was that 7" 45rps
singles sales dropped to near zero some years ago, to the point where
basing charts on them we felt to be almost meaningless. On that basis,
quite a small number of sales might be an 'increase'. However some time ago
I switched to buying CDs via mail-order as it became almost impossible to
find a local shop that stocked much in the way of 'classical' or 'unusual'
music. Hence if many large music retailers are now flogging 7" 45's I would
not have noticed....

I haven't found any UK or World figures. However the RIAA have the following
figures - all in millions of physical units/year with the 2005 value followed
by the 2004 value in parentheses:

CD 705 (767)
LP/EP 1.05 (1.36)
Vinyl 45 2.3 (3.5)
SACD 0.5 (0.8)

Totals 748 (814)

The totals are for all physical formats including ones I haven't listed.

My impression from the figures is that physical formats in general may
be dropping simply due to some people switching to buying 'downloaded'
music - which they may then burn onto a CD as well as keeping on
something an mp3 player. Hence it may me misleading simply to say
in isolation that "CD sales are dropping like stones". The reality may
well be better described by noting that physical formats in general
are being affected. Just that since CD has dominated the physical format
sales for years, the effect is most noticable on that. Be interesting
to compare it with how many CDRs are being made of music, though...

On the above basis Vinyl looks to be only a tiny fraction of CD, and are
falling. Although it looks like Vinyl 45's are doing rather better than
SACD. :-)

Anyone know world or UK values for the above?


Slainte,

Jim

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