Arny Krueger wrote:
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article

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While a single Power Humpty can run the entire unit, you
can use a second Power Humpty for true dual mono
operation.

Presumably only if each is driven off its own mains
generator?
.


Blah Blah Blah with you guys and your techno wank.
It so limits your ability to be opened minded and trust
your ears.I might be romantic but you guys are tragic.It
stunts you.

No, it keeps us grounded in reality.

One of my chip amps[a parallelled 4780]was built by a
highly successful and regarded amplifier designer
maker.

Name him. 5 will get you 10 that he's a well-known charlatan.

He is most famous for his valve amps and preamps
but has also built and successfully marketed hybrids.

That's charlatan with a C.

He put extra effort into power supply and regulation on this
thing.

Given how he no doubt effectively marks up parts and labor, he's got plenty
of incentive to add as many surplus features as his technically naive market
will bear.

It is 100 watts RMS and capable of driving low
impedence speakers.

So is a Behringer A500, and with power to spare.

He built it to drive some very demanding electrostats and
because many of his respected customers were raving about
these things.He has since designed and built a KT88 amp
with a damping factor of 200 so no longer needed the chip
amp.

Respected customers? Name them! Name him. 5 will get you 10 that they are
not what you'd call technically lettered.

This guy used to slag off op amps all the time-I believe
because they are so often badly used in CD players and
phono amps.

More likely, the audio sucker market shifted and he followed the dollars.

The chip amp is not as good as his valve amps-[better
than his hybrids though]but that does not mean that it is
not still better than the vast majority of SS amps.

Whatver that means.

It
exposes their lack of dynamics,speed and clarity and
their dirty and compressed sound.

Spare us all - a pace and timing bigot!

Just my opinion-many
others don't hear it this way-but many others do.
The Rotel amps mentioned by TW don't come even close .He
has some of them too.

No doubt, it's part of his schtick - "I've got all these Rotel amps, but the
ones I build for ten times the price per watt sound better".

For people who can't relate to the transistor amp sound
the chip amps are an alternative.

Ironic given taht they are transistor amps, pure and simple.

They have a clearly
different,fresher,faster and more open sound.

Yeah, sure.

They are not
perfect[they can sound a bit cold and hard when driven
hard],but to dismiss them out of some sort of technical
elitism rather than just listening to them is pointless.

Who said anything about dismissing them? How about we build some good ones
using orthodox technology that works, and laugh all the way to the bank?

You guys will probably never agree because you hear
differently.

Yeah, its that blind listening test thing. Something about not seeing which
amp you're listening to during the evaluation.

But others who are frustrated by hearing it
another way might.[Peolpe who like SETs for example].

I just don't have much affinity for integer number percentages of nonlinear
distortion and frequency response curves that are highly dependent on the
speaker's impedance curves.

When I replied to the initial post this is who I was
trying to inform-not you mob of crusty old tech
worshiping skeptics.

Its not a matter of us worshipping tech and you not. Its a matter of us
knowing tech, and you not.


With the chip amp kits costing less than many
interconnect cables,

Ooops folks, we've got one of those!

why should people not be encouraged
to try them? Its got to beat spending a small fortune on
a SET which might not sound better.

IME its hard to find a good-sounding SET.

I am sick of this subject.

That's why you can't write much about it.

Not!

I will have to find some other wipping boy subject.

How about begging, borrowing or buying your first clue about orthodox audio
technology?

How about battery powered portable CD
players sounding better than home ones?-I haven't heard
that one for a while.

Yes you did - you just raised that old canard up again.

Then again I have a battery powered chip preamp.......

Well so do I - its a Boostaroo!


The chip amp was built by Mick Maloney of Supratek.Not to market but
just out of curiosity and for a specific task.

I loaned my other chip amp -a Sonic Art 3876T kit to an audiophile
friend who owns and has owned all sorts of monster SS amps incuding
Pass Labs Aleph 3,Plinius,Audio Research,Luxman,M.E.850,HSA single
ended,Sugden A 21 as well as Bel Canto and ICE digital type amps.
He also agrees that this thing is a real giant killer and better than
any non valve amp he has heard.[This was using a valve preamp and
efficient speakers]
So i am not the only delusional one.

JT