Trevor Wilson wrote:
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Jim Lesurf wrote:
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One of my chip amps[a parallelled 4780]was built by a highly
successful and regarded amplifier designer maker.

He is most famous for his valve amps and preamps but has also built
and successfully marketed hybrids.



The chip amp was built by Mick Maloney of Supratek.Not to market but
just out of curiosity and for a specific task.

if this is who you are referring to above, then I have to confess that I
can't recall having heard his name before. However the alleged "fame" of
the designer may have no real relationship to do with the actual quality
of
the products.

I loaned my other chip amp -a Sonic Art 3876T kit to an audiophile
friend who owns and has owned all sorts of monster SS amps incuding
Pass Labs Aleph 3,Plinius,Audio Research,Luxman,M.E.850,HSA single
ended,Sugden A 21 as well as Bel Canto and ICE digital type amps. He
also agrees that this thing is a real giant killer and better than any
non valve amp he has heard.[This was using a valve preamp and efficient
speakers] So i am not the only delusional one.

It does not surprise me particulary if someone decides that some amps
using
'chips' sound as good or better as other types. What I have found odder
is
the predjudices people have on such grounds without having either tried
the
items in question, or having any understanding of the engineering
involved.

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim,


Do a Supratek search in Audiogon.There is plenty of info in their
dicussion forums.
Or search reviews in 6 Moons.
Or visit the Supratek site.

**Mr Maloney appears to eschew quoting even basic specifications for his
equipment. What is he hiding?

You seem to be under the impression that a bunch of people raving about a
product, automatically confer some kind of status of the product and it's
designer. It doesn't work that way. If it did, Bose would be the best audio
products on the planet. After all, Bose avoid quoting specs too. Mr Maloney
certainly builds attractive products, which are based on obsolete technology
and are priced at a level which makes strong men weep. If he can make money
out of it, then good luck to him. For me, I demand some basic specs from any
manufacturer, before I take him seriously.


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Mick Maloney is probably more like Ken Ishawata.He takes competent
designs which he develops in conjunction with New York audio engineer
Kevin Covi and fine tunes them so they not only measure well but also
sound good.There are plenty of products that measure well but sound
terrible.His fine tuning may even result in products that don't measure
as well [like some of Ken Ishawatas modifications] .This is pure
speculation of course.
Most of his clients couldn't care less about how well they measure.I
have never,however heard from anywhere that they don't,and I know that
he takes great care in running each of his products for an extended
period on his test bench before sending them off to his customers.
Obsolete technology?
If anything is obsolete technology it is the monster transistor amps
you seem to love.These are the real dinasaurs of audio.

JT



So valves are obsolete technology?