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Jim Lesurf wrote:
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One of my chip amps[a parallelled 4780]was built by a highly
successful and regarded amplifier designer maker.

He is most famous for his valve amps and preamps but has also
built
and successfully marketed hybrids.



The chip amp was built by Mick Maloney of Supratek.Not to market but
just out of curiosity and for a specific task.

if this is who you are referring to above, then I have to confess that
I
can't recall having heard his name before. However the alleged "fame"
of
the designer may have no real relationship to do with the actual
quality
of
the products.

I loaned my other chip amp -a Sonic Art 3876T kit to an audiophile
friend who owns and has owned all sorts of monster SS amps incuding
Pass Labs Aleph 3,Plinius,Audio Research,Luxman,M.E.850,HSA single
ended,Sugden A 21 as well as Bel Canto and ICE digital type amps. He
also agrees that this thing is a real giant killer and better than
any
non valve amp he has heard.[This was using a valve preamp and
efficient
speakers] So i am not the only delusional one.

It does not surprise me particulary if someone decides that some amps
using
'chips' sound as good or better as other types. What I have found
odder
is
the predjudices people have on such grounds without having either
tried
the
items in question, or having any understanding of the engineering
involved.

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim,


Do a Supratek search in Audiogon.There is plenty of info in their
dicussion forums.
Or search reviews in 6 Moons.
Or visit the Supratek site.

**Mr Maloney appears to eschew quoting even basic specifications for his
equipment. What is he hiding?

You seem to be under the impression that a bunch of people raving about a
product, automatically confer some kind of status of the product and it's
designer. It doesn't work that way. If it did, Bose would be the best
audio
products on the planet. After all, Bose avoid quoting specs too. Mr
Maloney
certainly builds attractive products, which are based on obsolete
technology
and are priced at a level which makes strong men weep. If he can make
money
out of it, then good luck to him. For me, I demand some basic specs from
any
manufacturer, before I take him seriously.


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Mick Maloney is probably more like Ken Ishawata.

**I very much doubt that. I've had some long conversations with Ken
Ishiwata. He REALLY knows his stuff.

He takes competent
designs which he develops in conjunction with New York audio engineer
Kevin Covi and fine tunes them so they not only measure well but also
sound good.

**Then why does he not publish any measurements of his equipment?

There are plenty of products that measure well but sound
terrible.

**Name them.

His fine tuning may even result in products that don't measure
as well [like some of Ken Ishawatas modifications] .This is pure
speculation of course.

**Indeed. You seem to engage in quite a bit of that.

Most of his clients couldn't care less about how well they measure.

**Irrelevant.

I
have never,however heard from anywhere that they don't,and I know that
he takes great care in running each of his products for an extended
period on his test bench before sending them off to his customers.

**And yet there are no useful specs listed on his site for any of his
equipment.

Obsolete technology?

**Yup.

If anything is obsolete technology it is the monster transistor amps
you seem to love.

**Projection. I don't "love" objects.

These are the real dinasaurs of audio.

**Uh-huh. Tell us more.


JT



So valves are obsolete technology?

**Of course. There is nothing (in audio) that can be done with valves, that
cannot be achieved with transistors. With the possible exception of the
gradual wearing out of valves from the instant they are switched on. That
part is quite difficult to duplicate. Even the microphonic effects of valves
can be duplicated, though I have no idea why anyone would want to do so.


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