Serge Auckland wrote:
tony sayer wrote:
In article , harrogate3
writes
"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:05:00 GMT, "harrogate3"
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I have now discovered that my Kenwood KT2060L tuner clearly has
only a
capacitor to back up the memory - it does not have a battery or use
E2PROM - so when the mains has been off for a day or less it
forgets.
I have been thinking of replacing it for some time, possibly with a
Denon TU260LII, but it would be no good if it suffers the same
problem.

Anyone know of any three-band RDS tuners that don't forget when the
mains has been off for a while? Philips tuners of yore always used
E2PROM, so I guess it may follow that Marantz do too.
Power economy is a factor. But isn't having a good-sounding tuner a
higher priority? If it must be left plugged in, so be it.

Therein lies a problem - the 2060L takes essentially the same power
whether on or off.

I have imposed the switching as the Sony MD recorder, Marantz CD
player, and (especially) the Rotel power amp were all permanently
powered and between them consuming about 60W 24/7 when in standby (or
on in the case of the PA.). I'm not a greenie, but with current fuel
price rises one has to stop and think some times.



Yep.. and I dead to think what the standby is on the office, workshop,
and domestic systems. Probably a tidy sum every year. Course in the
winter months, i.e. around now! 'thro till May next year, it isn't
exactly wasted as the surplus heat generated does help keep the place
warm....

--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com



I posted this a few weeks ago on another thread, but it's relevant to
this one as well:-

With the last increase in energy costs, I went round the house working
out what the approximate consumption is of all the stuff left on standby
or on permanently, and I come to something around 400W. That's 3500KWh
per year! Some of the stuff, like fridge, freezer, cooker hob, ovens
etc can't be switched off without risking damaged food or the hassle of
resetting clocks, but other stuff certainly can be. Turning off just the
hi-fi and TV equipment when not being used saves 584KWh a year, more if
I also turn off the wireless router and the computer at night.

I remember reading it - quite staggering! It's annoying (to say the
least) how the recent rash of digital receivers (DAB, Freeview) use
almost as much electricity in standby as when they're switched on.

Just a small point - is that 400W taken over 24 hours? I could
understand the figure if things like the fridge and freezer were active,
but it does seem very high, as does your annual figure - my total use
for the last quarter was 509 kWh, almost half your 'background'
consumption, and I consider myself an environmental thug (relatively).
You seem to be using 400W per hour background - that's just bonkers!


I would suggest that our domestic consumption is typical, even lower
than average as our children have left home, so if more people turned
off stuff on standby, the power saving would be very considerable. There
is the anecdotal evidence that equipment left on standby or permanently
on seems to be more reliable, but I'm happy to take that chance.


Ah, all our problems could soon be solved :-)

I've just spent half an hour checking out this:

http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/default.aspx

In fact, if true, our problems could be just beginning ...

Rob