"lordy" wrote in message
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On 2006-09-03, Keith G wrote:

This positively screams *transit screws* to me - are you sure you've
taken
them off??

Also check my mp3s when I thought it was fixed.

I have only had experience of one Debut myself but there were no such
problems with it. As you say, they have been reviewed many times and many
thousands have been sold - I have not seen anything like that noise
mentioned *anywhere* and no-one in his right mind would put up with it!!

It could be that some develop this fault after some hours playing? Thats
why it sails through auditions. Between my 'fixed' and 'back again'
mp3s,
I had accidentally left it spinning all night (which is probably a good
thing with hindsight).

http://www.lordy.org.uk/noise.html

A thread in Avforums had two responders saying they had hum. And a
'dealer' suggesting oiling the older debuts?

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388208

Also, being a budget , first timer deck, its more likely to be bought by
people that would put up with it perhaps ???

From someone else an the thread at avforums :

"A question I've wondered myself for many years. I had 3 before I got a
good one, only for that to do it a few months later."



Lordy


Oh, Lordy (PABOC) - I'd rather not think my time with a Debut ends on this
sad note. When I had one I thought it was good fun and that it positively
*sang*! Ludicrous VFM, if not quite the 'Transcription Deck' of choice -
although, having said that, I posted a number of tracks from it here and
no-one pulled them up for motor noise???

Faulty motors aside, Don has it when he says (WTTE) that your expectations
may be too high for the decks you are contemplating. I don't like planks
myself - they are only bloody great transducers at best, better are the TTs
with massy platters and/or where the motor 'effectively' doesn't exist
(Direct Drive) or where the motor is almost totally decoupled from the deck
and platter, as in the RPM9 where you could mount the motor unit on the wall
if it was ever going to bother you....??

Having said all that, the noise you are experiencing is not acceptable and
would not be tolerated by any vinylist I know. Incidentally, the only
'Expression' user I know is actually a Sales Assistant in one of the local
shops (upgraded from a secondhand Debut which he used to 'rediscover' vinyl)
and, AFAIK, is very pleased with it, so he can't be experiencing too many
problems! - Strike that! Make it *two* Sales Assistants from the same shop,
if my mate Siny Nigel still has his! (Forgot about that one!)