Andy Hewitt wrote:

I didn't say it was, but nobody else, apart from you, has actually
offered any evidence in return - other than '********' and 'bull****'.
They're certainly not terms I can remember using in Physics.

I have used "bull****" at least once in this thread, although perhaps not in
reply to you. That aside, I don't neccessarily disagree with the assessments
of the gentlemen concerned.


Yes, I realise that, I was trying to make a point.

To which the counterpoint is: This is an unmoderated public newsgroup, which
means that the flak comes with the turf.


The basic tenet of all this bi-wiring stuff, fancy cables and all
the rest is that it's all based on physics somewhere along the line.
The problem is, the physics it's based on is often plain false,
misapplied, or of such minimal effect as to be completely
disregradable.

Indeed, and I agree. However, there is science to suggest that the
effect does happen, but as you say, to what extent, and is it worth
consideration?

It may or may not affect a particular system, and it may or may not be
heard by the listener. If it is heard, then there's no doubt that the
effect does exist.

Which begs the question of what the precise circumstances were, under which
it was heard.


Yes. But this is essentially nothing to do with science. This is to do
with what a listener prefers to hear.

I think it has to do with *whether anything can be heard*. The listener's
preference is an entirely different thing, and I don't think any of this
debate has been about what one should or should not prefer. Rather, it has
been about whether a certain speaker wiring topology can be audibly
different from the norm. Note that neither of those articles gave an
indication of the *magnitude* this 'overpowering the treble' effect. The
crap that these people promulgate has got more holes than a fishing net.


There is no doubt that my system sounds extremely good in its current
configuration. I have yet to try it without biwiring the speakers, but
I'm tempted to do so now. However, there won't be anything scientific
about it, as it'll be my own personal preference that decides whether
one is better than the other or not.

I think bi-wiring is a waste of money. Nobody is going to convince me that
converting a short circuit to 50 milliohms is going to make a blind bit of
difference when there are so many other, more significant, factors that
will: choice of speakers, speaker position, room layout, room surfaces,
listener's position, listener's mood, what listener had for his tea. Change
the speaker straps to fifty milliohm resistors (by buying twice as much
cable)? Gimme a break! :-)


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