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Old September 23rd 06, 02:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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The problem is that if someone makes a claim but provides no
assessable evidence or details, then may be impossible to assess what
they say. This isn't a matter of how technically capable anyone may
be, but of having no assessable information.



Yes I understand that, but what I'm concerned about is that if the
requirements are forever too exacting they will stifle comment from many
quarters.


The "requirements" (i.e. test arrangements, or whatever) would depend
entirly on what *idea* was being tested. They could be simple or complex,
depending entirely on the case. However if you look back at this issue,
you
will find that my main concern tends to be with 'reviews' in professional
magazines where I would expect those involved to be willing to accept that
they may have responsibilities to the readers (who indirectly pay them).
In
effect it is their *profession* to try and get this right, not simply a
hobby interest. It seems reasonable to me to expect them to go to lengths
which would not be appropriate for most people who simply want to sit down
and enjoy the music.



These posts are always difficult to reply to because, due to the delays
involved, the 'moment' has very often passed for me and I have no
inclination to go ploughing back through the threads to check various
points.

Thus, taking the above in isolation, I can only say I have no argument with
your opinion of 'magazine reviewers' generally but would only say that
magazine reviews are very likely to fall short of the expectations of people
who are more 'technically' capable but, presumably, do at least serve the
purpose of keep less 'technically capable' readers entertained and sales of
the magazines up?

No-one in his right mind swallows the whole thing but many find something of
interest and, oddly enough, I suspect all of us like to see a bit of kit we
have already bought/own get a thumbs up (OK, meaningless in many instances)
from some wattock, whether we rate them or not..??



The point of these groups is debate and the exchange of information -
much of the information/comment offered here will be incorrect or
exaggerated, either way it's up to the skill of the debaters to keep
communications open, otherwise that point is lost.


The problem is that a statement may not be 'information' at all if we have
no way to tell what it actually means. Again, this depends entirely on the
specific case.



Much of what we read is not *information* in the strictest sense, but I
still say it's as much the responsibility of the informee to ensure he
understands what the informer is trying to say when statements are made in a
general 'conversation', as in this group. Demanding certain 'standards be
met' is only another way of driving off people who share some interest in
the hobby, albeit it at a less technical level, IMO....