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Old September 23rd 06, 03:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:

Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Keith G
wrote:



The problem is that if someone makes a claim but provides no
assessable evidence or details, then may be impossible to assess what
they say. This isn't a matter of how technically capable anyone may
be, but of having no assessable information.



Actually that is *your* problem not *the* problem. The person making the
claim has no problem here.


The claimant has a problem if they want readers to take what they say
seriously, but they do not due to the lack of evidence.


Not really. If they have any experience they know a certain subset will
always be nay-sayers. Personally I would just find it amusing if there
weren't the anti-science bull**** tied to it.




Anyone who wants to take a claim seriously may have a problem if they want
to base their assessment on evidence/details that the claimant won't
provide.



Practically no such people exist IMO. There are people who accept
opinions as aopinions and people who dont accept subjective opinions
about anything they think should have no sonic character of it's own.
True open minds are pretty rare.




Of course, anyone who does not care if an assertion has any basis in
evidence may not feel there is a problem. That is their choice.



There's evidence and there is evidence. So far I have yet to see
anything rise above the level of anecdotal evidence. All I see are guys
like you picking and chosing their favored anedotes and calling it
scientific. No thanks. That is truly anti-science.






Of course, it is up to the person making the claims if they are
willing to give any evidence/details when asked. Just as it is up to
others to decide if the claim is worth taking seriously or not.



Yes, and since most audiophiles are busy enjoying their systems rather
than gathering evidence those who demand evidence to support claims are
SOL.


No idea what 'SOL' means, I'm afraid.


**** Out of Luck



I have no expectation that "most audiophiles" would provide any evidence
or details at all. Most of them do not appear in magazines or on usenet,
making assertions which others may then want to read and consider.

The curio is that some people *do* make assertions, but then won't provide
evidence/details which allow what they say to be judged as anything more
that an assertion.



Yet you are no different. Sadly it seems you do not see this reality.


Scott