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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Arny Krueger wrote:
I wonder how Scott would feel if someone who had as little knowlege
of cosmetology as he has of audio would try to tell him how to do
his job. After all, cosmetology is all just about aesthetics, right?
Anybody with a good eye for aesthetics should be able to do his job
better than Scott does, right?

Happens all the time here in low budget TV. Every woman does her own
makeup - so why is it different just because a camera is involved? The
same happens with other skills - after all most now shoot holiday
movies. And when those skills are dispensed with to be replaced by
amateurs it doesn't half show.

It doesn't? I think quite the opposite is true. Audiences are getting
more and more sophisticated.

I suppose I'm guilty of using a local expression. 'Doesn't half' means
'does'.

Maybe with the sort of production you are talking about the expectations
just aren't very high.

I don't see how you can have high expectations with a low budget
production. Very few are willing to work for free - and those that do
fools.


But only possibly to those with the skills to notice the difference.
As is apparently the case with those who find vinyl more 'realistic'
than CD. They just don't know what they're listening to.

Now that is an interesting claim. Arny just went on about how I might
feel about non-pros telling me how to do my job etc. But here you are
claiming that the real top flight pros don't know what they are
listening to. Can anyone else see the irony? Arny went after James Boyk
infering that he has an anti digital agenda. But the fact is he is an
actual pro and has a fantastic ear. I can assure you he knows far better
than you what he is listening to yet he finds the vinyl more faithful to
the original than the CD of his recording made for the purpose of
comparison.
You can 'assure' me of anything. Doesn't make it anymore true. The way
Boyk goes about things is designed to prove his theories. Equally easy to
do the opposite.
He listens to live music on a daily basis. He teaches other
musicians how to listen to sound! He has access to the the original
master and had access to the original mic feed of his recordings. So,
unlike you, he had an actual reference to make his claims.

Err, how do you know what I do (did) and do not have access to?

And it isn't just him. You will find a number of *top industry pros*
that have the same preference for vinyl.

And you'll find even more *top industry pros* who don't. Oh - and simply
having a preference for something - work wise - doesn't make it the most
'realistic'. Look at the number of top photographers who work in B&W.

So maybe it is you who doesn't know what he is listening to.

Oh but I do.

To me, you are simply one of those who prefers listening to vinyl. I've no
argument with that - or with anyone else who holds that view. Only when
they start talking about 'realism'. Which is simply the bull**** they've
convinced themselves to believe for whatever reason.

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