Arny Krueger wrote:
"Nick Gorham" wrote in message


Richard Crowley wrote:

"Nick Gorham" wrote ...


Richard Crowley wrote:


Vinyl *adds* realism to anything. Magic it
may be but how and why they don't care.


Nominated for r.a.t ridiculous statement of the year.

"Adds realism"? Do they read this stuff before
posting it? Or are they using a different definintion
of "real" than the rest of us?

No, but you do seem to be using a different method of
clipping a post to make the point you want, and
attempting to acredit the author of a statement to the
wrong group in this case.


Huh? If you look closely, you will see that I
"accredited" it to NO specific author. I neither know nor care who said
it.


I'm questioning the concept of "adding realism" quite
apart from whether this applies to vinyl or digital, or
even to audio as such.

I did look closely, I see two "they"'s and a "us". To me
that involves at least two groups, and you are placing
yourself in the not "them" one.


Note that Nick is picking at words to avoid dealing with the important
issues that were raised.

Nick has effectively conceeded the points raised to Richard, but lacks the
candor to come out and say it.



Actually I don't give a toss if you think I am one one side or the other
in this, it just seemed to be rather sad, that Dave created a comment
that he tried to put in the mouths of the pro-vinyl group, then Richard
seems to have taken this point out of context and tried to make it the
subject of a strawman argument. Then following this several people
(including yourself Arni) has then jumped on this as a excuse to wheel
out the normal old stuff.

As it happens, I doubt you have ever head me claim that I believe that
vinyl has anywhere near the SN of CD, anywhere the low level of
distortion or anywhere near the convienence.

But what seems to be interesting, is that given I know all the above, I
(and it seems many others) still generally get greater pleasure from
listening to vinyl than I do CD.

I would have thought that would have been a interesting thing to
investigate, but you seem to prefer to disregard the fact that there are
people that prefer vinyl, and just insult them with a religious ferver
as far as I can see.

Oh, and by the way, last time I looked many of the training files on
your ABX site were missing or broken. And I have doubts about the
validity of some of them, For instance I would have expecetd 1% 2nd
harmonic distortion to be harder to spot, I seem to get a 100% result
given the files that are there at the moment.

--
Nick