"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Keith G
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Iain
Churches wrote:


Interesting observations. Thanks Dave. But how can that be reconciled
with the all amplifiers sound the same argument? :-)

I've not tried the A21 in any version, nor can I recall anyone
claiming that, "All amplifiers sound the same".


You either have a poor or a very selective memory, Jimbo - or you
perhaps were wise enough not to read all the posts from a former
subscriber here (the Roseate One) who frequently made the claim (as he
slid further into what appeared to be an AV/can't be arsed with 'audio'
vegetative state) that all amplifiers did more or less sound the same
with the preconditions that they were 'good', solid state and cost 300
UKP or more.

Well, perhaps it was sometimes claimed by one poster in a message that
*someone else* had said "All amplifiers sound the same".

But I can't recall anyone making such a statement with no qualifiers. If
you can, perhaps you can post the details of who, when, etc. - i.e. give
the date, time, title, etc, of the posting, and the full wording.

My recollection is that a more common claim was something like "all
qualifiers amplifiers sound the same (or indistinguishable) under
specified conditions of use.". Many people have said, this, from PJW
onwards. Alas, it then seems to be routinely changed to remove all
the specifics/qualifiers by someone else who dislikes what was said
and who wants to argue.

I think this is the a version of the 'Straw Man' debate technique. :-)


But in this case the differences
in the output impedances of the two amps might perhaps produce
different frequency responses with a load like the 57.


There ya go for starters...

Indeed. A point that has been made countless times in the past. And so far
as I recall, not contested by anyone who made the qualified claim I give
above. Since I can't recall anyone making the unqualified claim, I can't
say if they'd have objected to what I wrote. But if you can give specifics
I can check. :-)


Jim. Could your lapse of memory be a parallel of your not remembering
the very same poster claiming that all vinyl rolled of at 12kHz?
I was amazed that you said nothing.

But in the great scheme of things it is not important. Only
horticulture is important, and even that is not very important:-)

Regards to all
Iain