Arnii Krooborg, leading Usenet "engineer" ;-) , muttered:

One of the consequences of a proper engineering education program

Lest anybody forget, the Krooborg's "engineering" degree is in something
called "general engineering studies". The Beast started his education at a
community college (for our UK readers, that's like a halfway house between
high school and university). Then, despite the benefits of the G.I. Bill,
Turdy finished his "engineering" studies at a satellite campus of a state
university system. With those sterling credentials, Krooger went on to
become an engineering assistant at Chrysler Motors and a corporate trainer
at IBM.

Arnii Krooger lecturing about "a proper engineering education program" is
no more credible than a newspaper delivery man explaining how to publish
the paper or run a TV station.