On Nov 4, 4:41 pm, Eeyore
wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
Patrick Turner wrote:

Musicians do not necessarily have any special hearing abilities.

Yes, they do: they have trained perception. They listen consciously.
Non-audiophiles from the general population cannot even hear the
difference between a boombox played through good speakers and a Class
A PP tube amp played through the same speakers. To them it is all
"nice", useless for tests.

The same holds true for plenty of musicians too. The idea that ALL musicians
have wonderfully critical hearing is just plain wrong.

What is your problem, Poopie? Where did I say I was talking about "ALL
musicians". Why don't you learn to read? I specifically said, in the
section of my post you stupidly snipped: "it was just easier in my
particular circumstances to find as many classical musicians as
required."

And those that do have
good critical hearing may not be listening for the audible cues a technical
person will be.

You're a moron, Poopie. Where did I say anything about "technical
persons"? In fact, I specified psycho-acoustic reasons in the part of
my post you stupidly snipped:
"For the innocent: The point of listening tests isn't to discover
which
amp or topology is "better": I already know from comparison with years
in the concert halls which kinds of amps and which topologies I prefer
(Class A1 triodes or trioded pentodes in PP with ESL, and ditto in SET
with horns). The point of tests is to determine why these topologies
affect the emotions differently; psycho-acoustics is probably the last
frontier in audio-electronics."

Graham

If you attention span is shorter than your dick, Poopie, stay out of
my threads. They aren't suitable for soundbiters and idiots.

Andre Jute
"I was at a board meeting for the LA Chapter of the Audio Engineering
Society last night on XM Satellite radio audio and data transmission.
Sadly, we missed you there, and at the SMPTE and Acoustical Society
recent meetings as well. Everyone was asking, 'Where is that wonderful
Andre Jute? The world just doesn't rotate without him...'" -- John
Mayberry, Emmaco