Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article
[big snip]

Could you or anyone give me a clue here - an author perhaps? I've just
read something by Marc Perlman* - but I shouldn't think it's up your
street!

Afraid I can't say if it is "up my street" or not without reading what you
reference, although the title seems quite an amusing one. :-)

Is it available on the web somewhere? Not likely to be in my physics dept
library, but we do have a psychology dept with a strong group in perception,
etc, so they may have a copy.

There's a certain irony in your request :-) but yes, let me do the research:

https://cdnav.sslpowered.com/shared/...emic%20783.pdf


I picked it up via an online university catalogue. I suspect you are not
linked to a physics department as such - more the whole university, so
you can get whatever you want.

Not knowing the content of what you reference it is perhaps worth commenting
that there is a distinction between discussions of the 'sociology' or
'anthropology' of how scientist behave, and the actual experimental work
they do in terms of assessing the results for the purposes at which
the experiments are aimed.


Yes, I am familiar with what you say - hence my interest in the
epistemological reference. Before you can even think about method
(scientific or otherwise) you have to establish what counts as fact.
It's just the way it works in natural and social science (IIUC). And
that's what the article's about.

What is it that you wish to know more about? The actual details of tests
people have done, and how to assess their results? Or opinions and
arguments about people may divide into two 'camps' in order to bicker more
easily without having to bother with the actual evidence? Or...?


Well, I'd like some evidence :-)

I'm interested in work that examines DBT, and anything that seeks to
explain why people find differences in things like cables, CD players
(etc) where 'science' dictates no (such) difference is audible.

Perhaps this isn't your thing, so you won't know of any work in this
field. But it seems to crop up on this ng from time to time, and given
there's a few brain boxes here abouts, I thought someone might know.

The AES have some highly qualified people looking at this subject:

http://www.aes.org/technical/pseas/

although they seem rather shy in sharing their findings ;-)

Rob

* Marc Perlman (2004) Golden Ears and Meter Readers: The Contest for
Epistemic Authority in Audiophilia; 34; 783, Social Studies of Science


I found that reference indirectly, via some AES authors. I'm not sure
what to make of Perlman's work; the bit on p.797 onward kept me reading.

Rob