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Old July 15th 03, 01:23 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default (O/T) - Why do SACDs sound better? (Soft troll)

"Ronnie McKinley" wrote

Not necessarily, I have a dozen or more 'digitally' produced Warner Bros

Ry
Cooder LPs which sound excellent


Can' be excellent, Keith




Jeez, Ronnie - you still up? I thought it was just me and Dave Brubeck!

Swim's 'working at home' tomorrow ;-) so I'm on one of my 'jazz vinyl into
the wee smalls' jags! :-)

NP - Brubeck 'Time Further Out' (Fontana TFL 5161*, first published 1961 to
answer one of your comments below) and I'm still on side 1, so it'll be half
past by the time I get done.


*'also available in stereo'!!!



You said:
"Given that my own preferences are for vinyl
and that I think all 'digital' music is crap compared with it."



So, the actual digital process itself is not that which removes the
'life' and 'ambience' out of music and, degrades it, but the method used
to retrieve the information, is that the 'crap' bit (pun)?



Very possibly. All I know is, by the time it gets onto my deck and out
through my valves I can listen to it 'digitised' or not. Even MP3s (offboard
DAC mind) sound quite 'listenable' if I'm busy with summat else.



Tell you something. I have some (many) dreadful sounding mid 80s
digitally produced LPs and TBH they sound/sounded just as dreadful as
their CD counterparts



Hmmm. I kinda missed this era (kids and companies). Any mid 80's vinyl
kicking about here (like fekkin' hundreds of the buggers on the floor of my
room) was likely to have been hers. When the vinyl group kicks off I will be
mentioning a Vinyl Want/Sell or Swap List which I will put on my 'Vinyl
Page'. (That includes 2 'PY' discs you and I mentioned a while back!)

My favourite vinyl is definitely 30s, 40s, 50s stuff on vinyl produced
probably not later than 1980. (Having said that, I'm gagging for some Bjork
at a reasonable price!)


just flipped to side 2, so it'll be the 'car ad' music soon (Unsquare
Dance) and it'll be a bit past the half past mark!


I'm not sure if a 'modern' well produced 2003 LP has quite the *exact*
same 'life' and 'ambience' as that of a well produced analogue of 20
(plus) years ago :-) ... having said that, IMO, digitally produced *LPs*
did seem to improve a little in 'life and ambience' (for me) late 1980s
onwards, or did I (we) just became conditioned?



I'm not in a position to judge - my most 'recent' vinyl is 'O Borther Where
Art Thou' and that has been made to sound 'Old Timey'. Recent(ish) Yello,
Floyd, Vangelis, etc. all sound fine to me.....