On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:18:20 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , Bob Latham
wrote:
In article , Arny Krueger
wrote:

That people are tolerating the (relatively small) audible flaws in
MP3s proves nothing, because the flaws in legacy media (LP, consumer
analog tape) was far more audible.

I have very limited experience of mp3 players but I have on occasion had
friend's players wired into my Hi-Fi. I have to say I found them
worryingly disappointing and obviously inferior to CD.

This may depend on what you use as an 'mp3 player' and the details of the
mp3 recordings being played. My introduction to using mp3 was the free
downloads the Concertegbouw made available last year. These were 384kbps
and can I play them using machines like the Rega Apollo. Doing this, they
sound fairly good. I also converted them to LPCM so I could easily make
tracks of the movements. I don't know I could tell them from a decent
commercial CDA.

However if I play some of the low rate net radio stations they do sound
poor, and even some at 256kbps show up audible problems.

Slainte,

Jim

Have you tried any of the AAC streams yet? They seem to survive even
very low bit rates. In particular I find the image is far steadier
than medium rate MP3.

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