"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message

[Trimmed to just posting in one group.]

In article
,
wrote:
On Feb 15, 2:33 pm, tony sayer wrote:

You can rip a CD perfectly using a PC CD-ROM drive and the right
software, which gives you an error-free wav copy of the signal.

So you reckon you'd be able to reliably tell that apart from the
same or
another CD of that material from a CD player in a live A-B
comparison?.

With a good sound card in the PC, and against an average CD player,
the difference is surprisingly stark. (but, of course, idiots on
this
group will claim otherwise.)

Your assertion is rather ambiguous or vague for various reasons.

Firstly, since your posting was in two groups it wasn't clear which
group
you were calling "idiots". :-)

Secondly, your carefully preload your response by limiting it to
comparing
"good" sound cards with "average" CD players. Since you've not
defined
here the meaning of either qualifier you can simply choose to define
"good" and "average" to mean "can be distinguished" - so making your
assertion self-referentially "true" even if one category or the
other
were actually void of members. :-)

Thirdly, you can also be self-referentially be defining "idiot" to
mean
"no one in reality". So maybe just playing word-games to use
rhetoric in
place of you having any actual checkable evidence.

Forthly, you omit to give any assessible evidence of your claim.
Making an
assertion that you can do something is one thing. Providing evidence
that
others can check that you *can* do what you claim - when you only
have the
sound to go on - is something entirely different.

Perhaps you could list the names of some of the "idiots" on the
group you
had in mind, and give references to postings where they claimed a
"good"
soundcard *couldn't* be distinguished from an "average" one. Note
the
inclusion of the qualifiers you used.

BTW Tony, did you xpost this just to expose the sweeping assertion?
I
can't see the context for it having much to do with the thread
title....
IIRC 'jamie' seems to have a history of making dubious claims on the
digital-tv group... or am I confusing him with some "idiot"?... :-)


I'll cross-post this back to alt.radio.digital, because I don't think
Jamie would see your reply otherwise.




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