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This question has no meaningful answer - whether amplifiers sound
different (as many designers, manufacturers, salesmen and magazine
scribblers would have you believe) or not is not the point;

*Who's* "point"? It may be your point, it certainly isn't mine.

Who cares?

Well apparently *you* do, otherwise you wouldn't have been so keen to
tell us what "the point" was!


No, I don't care that my point isn't *your* point....

But then it's not *the* point as you claimed, it's *your* point.



It may be your point, it certainly isn't mine; my allusion is only that
the reality of the sound is an illusion,

The sound that issues from a loudspeaker is not an illusion, it has an
objective physical reality. The effect that sound has on the listener may be
an illusion filtered, as it is, via that listeners state of mind,
prejudices, moods etc. What subjective listening test have shown time after
time is that the perceived differences between the sound of different
amplifiers disappear once the listener is deprived of the knowledge of which
amplifier he's listening to. In other words the *objective* sounds issuing
from the loudspeaker are indistinguishable, the differences lie entirely
within the minds of the listeners.

I make no reference to apparent
differences in the sound, real or imagined....


and you are spending money chasing that illusion, they
you are fooling yourself in an expensive manner. Why not just stick a
photo of an SET amp in front of something readily available and cheap? it
should sound just like an SET to you.


OK, just another rickety excuse for a bit of SET-bashing, then?

I make no apologies for "SET bashing". SETs were where audio started out
some 90 years ago. In the meantime audio engineers have worked succesfully
to build amplifiers that imporoved on those early designs significantly.
Tell me, do you drive a car built to a 1895 design and claim it to be
"better" than a modern car?

Fine, but as usual and like the other SS bigots in here,

Preferring amplifiers with negligible distortion, ample power handling,
greater efficiency and reliability all at a very reasonable cost does not
make me a "bigot"!

you have got all lathered up and
run orf in the wrong direction - let me simplify the difference between
SET and SS setups for you:

Think of the difference between a 'SET/horns' setup and a 'normal' setup
as being like a live 'Theatre Sound' versus a 'Cinema Sound' where the
'Theatre Sound' is realistic and lifelike with clarity, depth and 3D
imaging rather than *impressive* and that 'Cinema Sound' gives you greater
amounts of 2D 'dynamics' and trouser-flapping bass. OK?


I doubt that there is a theatre in the land that doesn't have a 100% SS
sound system. But why the negative comments about Cinema Sound, when you
were wetting yourself earlier with the wonderful sound you were getting from
BlueRay?

Personally I've heard plenty of poor sound in theatres and excellent sound
in Cinemas, as well as the other way about.

David.