"David Looser" wrote

untidy **** snipped - some people will put up with anything....


The sound that issues from a loudspeaker is not an illusion, it has an
objective physical reality. The effect that sound has on the listener may
be
an illusion filtered, as it is, via that listeners state of mind,
prejudices, moods etc. What subjective listening test have shown time
after
time is that the perceived differences between the sound of different
amplifiers disappear once the listener is deprived of the knowledge of
which
amplifier he's listening to. In other words the *objective* sounds issuing
from the loudspeaker are indistinguishable, the differences lie entirely
within the minds of the listeners.


No, you're missing the point - the job of a hifi system is to try and
convince you that 'you are there' (as *one* here would once have had it) -
ie create an illusion of 'reality'. On a really good system, the sound is to
try and recreate a realistic illusion of, say, a viola well enough that you
don't confuse it with the sound you would expect to hear from a violin.

But please save yourself the effort and don't bang on about 'differences'
between amplifiers, especially SS amps (of which I have and use 3 on a daily
basis) - I have never said anything *other* than they sound the 'same'! My
personal hobby horses are 'vinyl vs, digital' and 'horns' vs. 'normal
speakers' - both of which are distinctly different to my ears, as are the
differences between various phono carts....

Consider this also - I have and use *both* valve and SS amps; I have and use
*both* vinyl and 'digital music'. OK? And you use what...??


OK, just another rickety excuse for a bit of SET-bashing, then?

I make no apologies for "SET bashing". SETs were where audio started out
some 90 years ago. In the meantime audio engineers have worked succesfully
to build amplifiers that imporoved on those early designs significantly.
Tell me, do you drive a car built to a 1895 design and claim it to be
"better" than a modern car?

Red Herring - 'modern' cars, like modern audio, are only 'improvements on
the original designsfrom back then, but WTF has that got to do with it?
Since when has *more modern* had anything to do with *quality* when it comes
to satisfying human senses?



Fine, but as usual and like the other SS bigots in here,

Preferring amplifiers with negligible distortion, ample power handling,
greater efficiency and reliability all at a very reasonable cost does not
make me a "bigot"!


Sure it does, but don't worry about it - that shot landed *exactly* where it
was supposed to!

(Right between the eyes! :-)


I doubt that there is a theatre in the land that doesn't have a 100% SS
sound system. But why the negative comments about Cinema Sound, when you
were wetting yourself earlier with the wonderful sound you were getting
from
BlueRay?


'Wetting yourself'?? That sounds a bit ghey - do you mean '****ing your
pants'...??

Bluray sound (HD) is only planar/2D 'Cinema Sound on *steroids* and 4 or
more different fronts, but don't worry about that either - a representative
of the Denial Boys will be along shortly to tell you to ignore it and urge
you to get back to nice, 16/44.1, 2-channel (*adequate*) digital sound...