"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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No, you're missing the point -

No I'm not. It is clearly one of your "debating" styles to tell your
opponent that they are "missing the point" when they don't agree with you,
but I see you go on to make an entirely different point as though it was
somehow the same as the last one you made (which it isn't).


Dear oh dear...

Trust me, you were missing the point - you were talking about "The sound
that issues from a loudspeaker is not an illusion, it has an
objective physical reality." in response to my point about the *illusion of
reality* (instruments, voices, whatever) in the sound created by a system.

OK?

('Don't agree with me' you say...?? - When TF has anybody ever agreed with
me here?? :-)


Consider this also - I have and use *both* valve and SS amps; I have and
use *both* vinyl and 'digital music'. OK? And you use what...??


Are you trying to suggest that I am not perfectly familiar with those
things as well? what arrogance!


I don't do arrogance (or hubris either) - the question is clear: What do you
use? IOW, how ancient are your terms of reference?

Too many people with current opinions based on distant memories and
experiences (whether real or imagined) to take them seriously, I find....


It's because I am perfectly familiar with vinyl and all the distortions
that it generates that I know just how much worse it is than CD.


In your opinion - means nothing to me....



But *good* valve
amps are as good as good SS ones, just more expensive and less reliable.


No, lets shoot this one through the head, if nothing else - budget valve
amps are no more expensive these days than their equivalent SS amps (check
eBay), 'boutique' valves are no more expensive than 'boutique' SS and no-one
(other than good budget Jap like Sony) has any greater claim to
reliability - starting with Arcam, here in the UK....