Keith G wrote:

"Nick Gorham" wrote


Yes, and as I said its tragic (well its not, but its sad at least) but
the son or father chose to race on open public roads, if I did this on
a motorcycle (as I did on that road in my younger days) it would have
been put down to another stupid biker going too fast and loosing
control. And if the police had seen me doing it, I would have been
pulled over. Whereas there are flocks of people head down, going as
fast as they can, expecting other folk to keep out of their way.


There are no 'flocks' of people - these 'time trials' are single riders
spaced out by considerable distances, usually....

But the fact remains that if any other road users main focus was going
as fast as possible, then they would be judged to be at fault.




There is a difference, horse riders (and other folk with animals) if
properly controlled can expect other users of the road to treat them
with care. As can cyclists if they are riding with awareness of their
surroundings and vulnerability. Its not about nuisance its about
taking responsibility.


...and if some clown in a car (?) can't get past a single bike without
killing the rider it's a very poor show - the responsibilty is with the
car driver, IMO.

Well, as I (and I suspect you) don't know the details of this incident I
can't say. But I know that if when I was riding motorbikes I expected
other road users to look out for my safety, I would not be here now. I
drive a car at the moment, and nothing has changed. Still my
responsibility to look out for my own safety when using a shared road.

Just for a moment consider the "clown" in the car, for all you know
Keith he did nothing wrong, the bike could have fallen in front of him,
so now he (or she) has the moment of killing someone on their hands.
More than one potential victim in this.

--
nick