"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Woody" wrote in message
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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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Serge Auckland wrote:


Keith, it's called Marketing...on the US ones it has
"American sound tuned" on them, on the Japanese ones it has
"Japanese sound tuned", on the ................

Would love to be proved wrong, and there really is a
difference.

Addition of European required RF immunity components, and so
special tuning required to avoid the detrimental sound
effects of?

In days of old, Japanese products sold here had the speakers
supplied by an English manufacturer - stated reason then was
the difference in the type of music played east and west with
regard to tonal range, and the jap speakers not being
suitable?



Which makes a bit of a nonsense that one of the best monitor
speakers ever made - the Yamaha NS1000 - was made in Japan and
imported complete!

For anyone who has the 'honour' of comparing British and
Euro-fi the most noticable thing I find is that we Brits like
our bass.


Especially in little, hatchback cars....


One note bass it might have been but nonetheless if it boomed
it sold.


Still does.



Euro-fi tended (and still does to some extent) to veer
towards perceived clarity and stereo staging with much less
weight to the bass volume.


Enter the 'firewood horns' to save the day - note most modern
designs are from Europeans, most notably Germans....



Perhaps they go to more live concerts in Europe that we thick
Brits so know what an orchestra/organ/choir/jazz group/singer
really sound like, rather than how we think we would like them
to sound.


There is more BS talked about concerts here than anything
else - the one thing you can't get (indoors or out) is a heavy,
palpable bass at any distance from the source, so why choose
speakers that produce it...??


Observation: Bose kit with its well known one-note bass sells
well over here despite being vastly over priced. You have to
go digging to find it in Germany.

I rest my case M'Lud.


Well said - I'd buy that (well, most of it) for a dollar!

Stupid, thick, blurry *pistonic* bass may well keep the Chavs
happy, but it has no place in a decent 'audio system' in my
book!





Wah-hey! Support for once.

There is one 'application' where good bass is worthwhile and
where it does carry - (pipe) organ music.

Until the decision was made some years ago that they were 'too
big now' we used to have a pair of home built transmission line
speakers on the Dr. Arthur Bailey design published in Wireless
World in 1972 - the nearest commercial equivalent was the IMF
TLS80. Line up was KEF B139 and B110 with (in my case) T27
although the original design was for the (then no longer
obtainable) T15. They had an ease of listening that was beguiling
albeit at the expense of stereo staging.

The place where their bass ability really showed up was on pipe
organ pedals. I had a sampler disc - I think it might have been
Denon - which had a recording of Bach played on the organ of
Limburg cathedral. There was one sequence where there was a
descending scale played on pedal woods couple to pedal reeds; you
could hear every note - clearly - all the way down without
resonance, 'bloom,' or rattle - it was fantastic. For a short
while I had a borrowed pair of Cambridge R50's which used the
same drive units in a transmission line-ish structure - they are
the only other speakers that I have ever heard that could
reproduce that cadence with the same detail.

My speakers since then have been Spendor BC1's and (now) KEF Q5
(or is it Q55?) and neither have that ability to produce the
depth+clarity+'musicality' of the TL. :-((


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Woody

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