"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:
This is the ukra Charter:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.audio.html

(Allegedly...)


Not that I paid much attention in the first place - but that does look
different - has anyone edited it?



No idea.



I think AV equipment should be 'allowed' as more people use it as part of
their audio only systems; technical posts are fine; merits etc of
valves/vinyl/digital/SS fine of course; discussion of manufacturers fine;
don't understand the point on crossposting.


With you on all of that.



I can't see how a discussion can take place without the inclusion of
these aspects. In fact a lot of the discussion is about all of this - and
the better for it.


Yep.



And what do 'frown' and 'lengthy flame' mean?! Strikes me that a sort of
closed club mentality might have been the original idea.


I don't think so, not originally - I think the closed club mentality has
evolved over the years.



The recent issue has been group enforcers - perhaps the charter needs
reviewing?


Possibly, but attitudes need to be reviewed also - nowadays, oustide of
the industry, 'audio' is dead and no amount of hokey 'my vintage amplifier
hums' BS is going to save it. Normal 'hi-fi gear' in the form of SS amps
and CDPs (if such a thing is still being produced) is all much of a
muchness, all sounds the same (we are told) and never breaks down (unless
it's high-ticket Brit stuff built by Chavs or Roumanians in East Anglia
somewhere). People get all the 'audio' they want from a number of
different sources, including stuff like the Telly, AV amps, MP3 players
and mobile phones - all of which would be 'frowned upon' and is outside
the Comfort Zone of the Quad Squad and other wannabee 'engineers' who seek
to rule this newsgroup today....

AFAIAC, the burning question is 'OT better than No T..??

IOW, does this group sit in silence like frogs in a pond for days on end
until a fly happens by, asking a *strictly audio* question (which are
typically ignored, in any case) or does it chatter like a tree full of
monkeys about anything and everything, trusting a common interest in
'audio' to keep a general audio vein running through it?

Last time I looked, there were an impossible 1000 posts a day in the UK
motorcycle newsgroup - OK, 90% of them are along 'meetoo' lines, but
generally anything and everything on and off topic was (and is being,
presumably) discussed without ever losing (that's 'loosing' for the Yanks
here) sight of the fact the main subjects in the group are 'bikes and
'biking.

Why is there *so much fear here* that wattering on about various topics in
between times (between what?) would cause such a rift in the space/time
continuum?

I see and/or hear a hundred things a day which take my interest and I
might mention in a conversation; I have posted only one or two (to fizz
things up) that I thought might have been of interest here! But I'm all
out of 'audio issues' atm, so I can't feed the furnace with nice 'audio
under-arm bowling' that I know a few here like so much. In fact, the last
question I posted that was *strictly* audio (which new SS amp?) was
virtually ignored - as are most similar quesions from 'strangers', I have
noticed?

Whatever....

I think it's all about *control* and I believe I know which maggot it is
that wants that control....

;-)

From my own POV it's academic - I think this group's about as fizzed up as
it's ever going to get; the question is do I bother to hang around for it?
I sure as hell ain't going to tolerate the hostility I'm gett ing here
just to see it starting to fire on all four and seeing Iain continually
grind *a certain other* individual into pulp time and time again loses
(that's.... never mind) its appeal after a while,other than to study at
great length the *hypocrisy* of the one perpetuating the OT topic, simply
because he a) can't help himself or b) it suits him to do so....

:-)

EOT.



G'wan, Don - wag a little chidey finger, you know you *want* to! :-)