"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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Les Cargill wrote:

Meh? I don't think so. You understudy another PE ( in a
discipline) for a year, then take a test in the discipline.

The problem with the PE test for many years was that it was
not specific
to any discipline and was in fact very heavy on mechanics
and civil
engineering stuff. So if you were an electrical engineer
and wanted to
work as a PE, you had to take a test on truss loads and
steam pressures.

Not in the USA at least for the past 28 years as I have been
licensed. In fact now there are actually three subcatigories
of Electrical. Computer, Power and Electronics. Fortunatly I
grandfather into all three.
http://www.ncees.org/exams/professio...ical_exams.php




I am told that these days the test has been broken up
somewhat and that
there is now a specific EE option, although folks from other
engineering
disciplines (anything from textile or ceramic engineering to
aero) still
have to calculate soil erosion.

The BS degree just helps HR sort resumes...

Yes, and the BS degree is worth more than the PE in a lot of
cases.
So while in theory you could cram for the PE and pass it
without a
degree, it wouldn't be all that easy to get a job that way.

Being alowed to take licensure exams without graduating from
and ABET accredited curriculum has not been allowed for over
40 years. When the first licenses were given in 1966 perhaps,
but today there is no way to get your PE without going through
the process. Most people graduating in engineering now-a-days
do not peruse a PE. Fresh graduates taking the electrical FE
pass at 63%. Only 63% of first time PE takers pass. These are
people who have degrees and work experience and PE
endorsements and have passed the FE. This is not an easy test.
I could not pass it today without some big time cramming at
least.



The guy who does my contract work, though, never got a law
degree.
He apprenticed with a lawyer back in the fifties, studied a
lot,
and passed the bar exam. That's not very common today but
it used
to be very common a century ago.
--scott

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