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Old September 10th 09, 01:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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Default Transcriptor Hydraulic Reference on sale at UK

In article , UnsteadyKen
wrote:
Don Pearce said...


Hold an LP up balanced on two fingers at opposite edges - you will see
how much it sags quite easily. Obviously it doesn't sag as much as
that with six suspension points, but it sags much more than enough to
generate a huge signal.


The Hydraulic was designed for the thick'n sturdy pre 73 oil crisis
discs which are a totally different animal to the later floppies.


My unreliable recollection is that many 'pre 73' LPs were far from flat, or
even very thick.

I got a couple of lp's last week, a Decca ffrr from 1965 and a bog
standard EMI Columbia from 1966 and neither droops on your finger tip
test,


Weird. Most of the pre 73 LPs I have are ones I bought when they first came
on sale! :-)

However, a sensing system like a stylus might be able to detect variations
from flat thay you can't see using your mark 1 eyeballs. So your "neither
droops" may simply tell us something about your eyes, not the LP. :-)

You could check by holding a straight-edge just above the LP, touching at
the suspension points. Then see if daylight floods though the gap. That way
you may be able to see a droop which your eyes would otherwise not notice.

That said, since most LP sensors are essentially velocity sensitive that
might help here given the low frequency of 6-point support at 100/3 rpm. I
guess it then depends on the suspension of the cantilever and the response,
etc, of the preamp. And with luck the unwanted ripple will be below the
arm/cart resonance, not spot-on that value!

on the contrary significant pressure has to be applied to deform
them.


....to the extent you find visible.

I have a vague feeling this topic did feature in a magazine set of
measurements a few decades ago. If I can find that sometime I'll let people
know.

Slainte,

Jim

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