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Old November 27th 03, 01:06 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Mike Gilmour" wrote


snip Mike's 'Yoof Of Today' rant


Mike, I didn't need to see this post today! - I'm having one of *those*
days - I still haven't found my shaving mirror which seems to have gone
missing (a lifetime first!), for no reason at all I became acutely aware
that two of us here have no less than 16 teaspoons in the cutlery drawer (I
actually counted them!), my emails consisted of the usual mile of Yankee
spam plus *yet another* direct reply (emailed to me) to a post in ukrav
(what is it about that group - nobody posts there, any replies I do get
always come direct!??) and I logged in here with an even greater sense of
futility and feeling even more stupid than I normally do! And, sure enough,
there's the inevitable (nowadays) vinyl thread, the usual ludicrous
crossposted crap (cable crimping or summat, this time!!!) a few posts from
obvious kiddies asking, quite frankly, *stupid* questions and one or two
posts from some (very obviously) young smartarse expressing views on 'Jazz'
so alien to me I can't put my arse up to them! Nothing at all from the 'Old
Gang' who all seem to have had a simultaneous Reality Attack and, wisely,
seem to have all ****ed off!

Then I get to your post!

Let me say, first off, I see where you are going and broadly agree with the
sentiments expressed. I don't agree about the lead paint and I can't relate
to your 'flip flops and fluorescent 'clackers' on our wheels' at all - in my
time it was cigarette packets or playing cards and I ain't ever worn 'flip
flops' in my entire life!. (Strange that because, at 56, I thought I was
only 4 years older than you, but this seems to come from at least a decade
later?) Beef dripping on (on bread, with a sprinkle of salt - not in a
'sandwich') I not only *can* relate to - I sometimes lie awake of a night
fekkin' thinking about it! :-)

You have addressed a great many issues that are very close to my own heart
and I would only say that if I could go back in time twice it would be to
1914 and 1939, with a bundle of magazine photos of the mindless, uniformed
sheep, that kids have become today, to try and persuade a few million decent
youngsters not to throw their lives away just so that some gormless little
**** can spend part of his £200 a week pocket money on a new jingle for his
bloody mobile phone!

Having seen a 'University Hairdressing Student' (???) on the telly last
night expressing her opinons on student grants, seen a weather report from a
geezer (whose own garden was apparently underwater) forcasting rain being
followed by some BS about he 'we need to save water' and reservoirs down to
20% of normal or somesuch, then hearing that because a 1,000 people a year
are alleged to die from passive smoking 'they' are trying to get half the
planet decreed 'No Smoking Areas' while selling fags on every street corner,
followed by a 'tough ****' report that 22,000 people did/will die from
hypothermia in the winter, hearing that the Labour Government wants to
become the 'Employers Government too', hearing that some Dago has turned
down an OBE for some fekkin' poetry while some **** gets one for kicking a
ball about and so it goes on.......!!!! (And that's only overnight FFS!)

Then I get on to this group.....

Like I said, a few truly stupid questions which have been asked a hundred
times, the ever-present (thanks to the, er, American connection) ludicrous
crossposted crap, the general view that Jazz (the 'New Rock N Roll'?) is now
deemed (by the aforementioned kiddies, who have instigated *nothing* new in
their entire lives and, most likely, never will) to be virtually *anything*
that is a) performed by persons *without* pierced navels or b) doesn't have
a cello in it. (Let's not mention the use of mics in 'Opera' these days or
the somewaht unrelated fact that Hollywood is entirely capable of coming up
with an original/new idea for a film.....!)

Like I said, The 'Old Hands' in this group appeare to have lost interest and
wandered off and the 'New Wave', to be quite frank, is about as interesting
as watching a turd dry out. Compared with some, this group has much
'community' spirit as the Harrods New Year's Sale and the normal 'tone' here
is that of a school playground at best. My own efforts here, during the last
12 months - Webpages, posting like a demented thing, Show N Tell
'interactivity', new vinyl group - have come to naught. (The best fun I've
had in a long while was smashing Rudi into submission yesterday! :-)

Your post has somehow backlit all of the above and my own feelings of
foolishness, logging on here, are now at the 'it's time to **** on the fire
and call in the dogs' stage! I do believe Mike, you have done what a 1,000
Chicago ****heads cound *never* have achieved - I think you've helped me
realise it's time to move on!

I think what I need is:

To find my shaving mirror.
Cut the number of teaspoons down, round here.
Follow the 'smart money' and jack this ng in.
Get a life.....


More, later (probably).......