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Old December 26th 09, 02:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G[_2_]
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Default Call me Amphetamine Annie...!!


"Frank" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

"Ken" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:59:01 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

SACD:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat01.mp3

Vinyl (no declicking):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat02.mp3

Vinyl (declicked with Izotope, believe it or not)

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/SoWhat03.mp3


Enjoy!


Why does the second track sound better than the first one?

Higher level.



Actually, it isn't - if you look at the waveforms you will see the SACD
track (01) is louder in the right channel than the LP and the LP track
(02)
is louder than the SACD in the left channel.

It's the best compromise I could get: the SACD clip recorded at a much
lower
overall level than the LP and I had to bring up the volume and try to
match
it manually in the recording software at the 'crossover point' - a
kludge at
the best of times, but close enough for *listening* purposes.

Anyway, A/B comparisons like this are meaningless to anyone other than
'measurement freaks' - if anyone is looking for a 'winner' in
situations
like this, the only way to choose between SACD/CD and 'vinyl' is to
have
both, play both and see which one 'wins' (is played the most) over a
period
of time.

Something I did a long time ago....

@;-)


I don't look at the waveforms, I only listen.
Second track sounds higher.



This is an audio newsgroup full of audio newsgroup types: I don't think
it's unreasonable to expect that at least the majority of said audio
newsgroup types would either look at waveforms or at least be able to
look at waveforms in situations like these. 'Loudest = best' is for your
*auntie*, not for audio newsgroup types - try using a volume control
somewhere along the line....



No no no ... I said that the second track sounded better not louder.




That's perfectly understood Frank - I was merely responding to Ken's remark
that the second clip was louder.


The second and the third even sound like at different pitch from the first
one ... and different overall.



I'm not aware of any problems with my deck and there is a strobe light on it
which never seems to change or need adjustment, but you can never rule out
pitch differences with turntables! (And I have been known to run a turntable
3.3% fast for a couple of weeks, a few years ago!! ;-)