"David Looser" wrote in
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"Iain Churches" wrote

Thinking back, there have been very few people
indeed on this group who were "active in audio",
by that I mean actually building things,amps and
speakers, and making evaluations and comparisons.


This is a pretty strange comment, particularly given its source, Iain.

AFAIK Iain himself has nearly zero actual hands-on involvement with audio. I
don't recall ever hearing about him personally soldering wires or parts,
cutting wood for enclosures or chassis, drilling and punching holes,
personally setting up mics or laying down mic cables, actually recording a
live performance by pressing the arm and record buttons, live mixing,
editing audio using a DAW, burning CDs for distribution to end users, etc.,
etc. Nada.

ISTM that there are quite a lot of people here who build
things.

Interesting that later on Iain demonizes me by name, and yet in terms of
hands-on audio work, I am probably among the top 20% around here. I have
both/video audio production and audio evaluation and construction projects
going on all of the time.

Note all of the childish insults that particularly Iain has heaped on what
little he knows about my production work - at this point perhaps 100s of
derisive posts, many of which have been given instant "me too" approval by
Kitty and Bill. They know full well that by shouting others down they can
make their own efforts seem more important.

In recent months the group has had requests for help with
all sorts of problems that various posters have had with
construction projects. Maybe these aren't all "amps &
speakers", but there is a lot more to audio than those
two particular items.

Agreed.

Recently we've even had someone
building a valve-based audio mixer, does that not count
as being "active in audio" in your book?

Point of order, wasn't that discussion mostly on RAT? Not that it isn't an
interesting and challenging project in a retro sort of way.

As for "making evaluations and comparisons", doing that
in a meaningful way is not something that is really
within the province of the amateur enthusiast. But of
course we have Jim Lesurf here, who far and away the most
active and expert in this respect of those currently on
URA.

This would be a joke. Speaking as the inventor of the ABX listening test
which has been probably *the* hottest topic in the history of audio when it
comes to "making evaluations and comparisons"... Then there is the audio
measurement work that was published on the web for about a decade as
www.pcavtech.com, a web site that in its day was very actively tracked and
mentioned on other influential web sites and magazines.

Andy was one, and Keith another. Both got very
rough and treatment.

Keith like Iain give far more rough treatment than they will ever get. I
give Keith points for actually getting his hands dirty with audio, and often
in positive ways. Unfortunately, he seems to need to take more personal
satisfaction from the group than he gives.

In the time I've been here Keith has dished out far more
"rough treatment" to others than he has received himself.

That's the problem with Keith. He's very active and entertaining with his
little experiments, but unfortunately he always wants to take credibility
away from others.

IIRC most of the shouting down was done by the
remarkably short-lived Pinkie/Arny double act,
Vinyl Grinder and Monkey, as they were known.

Iain and Keith both object strenuously when their claims are put to any
logical test. There is a reason - the facts don't back them up. Google
searching shows that "Vinyl Grinder" *never* showed up on UKRA until about
5 days ago.


I've been here quite a while, but maybe not long enough
to remember that one. In recent weeks, though, we've had
the Keith/Bill double act who have egged each other on to
come up with newer and ever more offensive nicknames for
those they choose to regard as being their "enemies". In
the short time he's been here Bill has become one of
URA's most prolific posters, yet the vast majority of his
posts have been either gratuitous insults, or pointless
"me too" comments.

Indeed.

I'm surprised that, whilst you are so
keen to complain about the "shouting down" that happened
in the distant past you have been silent about Bill's
current highly negative influence on URA. What hold does
he have over you? Or are worried that if you comment on
his crass behaviour he'll add you to his list of people
to insult?

I'm under the impression that Bill and Kitty are staunch defenders of Iain.
Fanciful posts like this suggest that Iain lives in a fantasy world, which
the three of them inhabit as one unhappy little family.