In article , Iain Churches
wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...

Can you think of more explicit terms for "delay the reverb" and
"reverb the delay" (without filling an A4) I have yet to meet
anyone who cannot differentiate clearly between them once the object
of the excercise is made clear.

Well, it would be up to use and others in the relevant area of
practice to decide on the terms you use. I don't know how you use
other jargon that may have established meanings in your field that
aren't in my own! :-)

Indeed. It was this "jargon", which seems to have confused/misled you
the first time round.

Or more specifically, that the "jargon" you used employed the same word for
two quite different functions. Hence the problem is the ambiguity in the
way you used the word and that you made no distinction at the time.

TBH I'm still not clear if you have understood and defined the difference
you meant even now.


However the key point is that you mean "delay" to signify slightly
(but significantly) different things.

Yes. It is used both as a verb and as a noun.

No. As I wrote earlier, I think you used the same word "delay" for two
difference *processes*.

If one uses the synonym
"postpone" in place of "delay", in the term "delay the reverb" then you
will understand better what is being done.

What word would you then use for the other use you meant when you used the
term "delay" but AIUI meant to combine the "postponed" version with the
current 'undelayed' input?


if you *loop back* the delayed output and combine it with the current
input and then put these both back though the delay (whose output
would then loop back again) you'd need to use some term like "looped
delay".

There is an effect called looped delay, but that's not the effect I was
referring to.

That is the kind of reason I explained why I can't provide new 'jargon' for
you. Someone familiar with the established jargon of the recording field
would need to understand the ambiguity and devise suitably descriptive and
unambiguous terms to distinguish the two different processes that you both
called "delay".

FWIW in cases like this I'd suspect that when explaining it might be
easier to sketch a signal flowchart as that should make clear what the
signal paths were. May be a case where a simple diagram bypasses many
risks of ambiguity.

I am making a series of audio examples, links to which will be posted
later in this thread.

TBH I don't know that will help. What would help is a clear and unambiguous
description (maybe a diagram) specifying the signal path topology and where
what functions are applied. As I've said above, I'm still not sure you've
correctly and unambiguously explained what you meant with your two uses of
"delay".

Slainte,

Jim

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