"David Looser" wrote


But there were people fascinated by TV at the time, and indeed there are
people today fascinated by this formative period in the history of TV. My
point is that by the logic that has been used to claim "fashionabilty" for
vinyl pre-war TV should also be "fashionable".


No idea, but then I don't think vinyl is 'fashionable' anyway. There has to
be something about it though - Yell.com are showing a guy searching record
shops (real records - LPs) in an ad I saw only last night.

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...lldotcomad.mpg

??




What's far more important is 'are SET valve amps fashionable'...??

Nope.


Aw....

:-(


OK, you got me there! I cannot *prove* that to be the case. Put it like
this, I see people out and about with mp3 players all the time.


This is where we differ, I haven't seen very many at all: mobile phones
stuck to the side of their heads - yes!


You really don't get out much do you Keith!


Not at the moment.


Try opening your eyes next time
you are on a bus or train (or are you one of those who never goes anywhere
by public transport?)


'Fraid so - it's been years since I was on a train and decades since I was
on a bus! :-)


'Commonplace' doesn't equate with *quality* - usually quite the reverse!

That comment shows that you are missing the point by miles! You were
talking about the *popularity* of vinyl and now, when I state that vinyl
is far less popular than CD or mp3 you start wittering on about quality.
Just try conceding a point when you lose, rather than try and pretend that
we were talking about something different. :-(


I think it's all in your head - when did I ever give you the impression that
I thought vinyl was currently popular with any more than a tiny majority?

(I don't think you need anyone else present to have an argument, you seem to
be able to handle 'both sides' on your own! :-)



BTW your statement "Commonplace' doesn't equate with *quality* - usually
quite the reverse" doesn't hold true these days. Automated mass production
not only produces items at low cost (thus allowing them to be
"commonplace") but also produces them at a consistent high quality.



Now you're the one *missing the point*....


The only 'opposition' you get here is to your oft-stated views on CD.


That they are crap? (I've only said that once before - yesterday, I
think! :-)

Whether you've used that exact expression before or not, you've expressed
that view frequently, so please don't try playing games with words. I
cannot decide whether you do this sort of thing deliberately to avoid
having to concede a point, or whether you genuinely cannot follow
arguments further back than one post in a thread.


That might be the best thing you've said - I almost never backtrack to find
what has gone before and it's fairly obvious there are occasionally some
misunderstandings. Can't be helped.





But it isn't - it's CDs which are crap! ;-)

Very much a minority view.


Plummetting sales say different!

Again you are totally missing the point (you do it so well Keith, and so
often!) Sales are not plumetting because people think CDs are "crap", they
are plumeting because music is increasingly being downloaded (often at no
cost) and listened to from mp3 players etc.

(They are obviously not good enough to prevent people ditching them in
favour of downloads for the same sort of money! :-)

Nobody is ditching CDs in favour of downloads because they think downloads
have better fidelity,


Who TF said they were? There you go again with the 'makey up'....


they are doing it because downloads are quick, because
they can buy the tracks they want rather than having to buy a whole album.
And, since they are going to play the music from their mp3 player anyway,
there's not really much point in bothering with a physical object.


You know all this for certain? My original point remains: CDs are obviously
not good enough to prevent people jacking them in in favour of downloads
even when the downloads work out more expensive - apparently, according to
an ad I referenced recently! You also seem to have missed the obvious with
downloads: people download because it is quick and convenient and they
either don't perceive a drop in 'digital sound quality' or don't care about
it.