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Old February 22nd 11, 06:38 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
David Looser
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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I really don't see why - my views don't change...??

No, your views don't change, but your debating points are as insubstantial
as quicksand.


BTW your statement "Commonplace' doesn't equate with *quality* -
usually quite the reverse" doesn't hold true these days. Automated mass
production not only produces items at low cost (thus allowing them to
be "commonplace") but also produces them at a consistent high quality.

Now you're the one *missing the point*....


Am I? can you explain what you think the point is?



Sure, these days 'quality' items tend to be the 'hand crafted' low
production run or even one-off stuff.


Wrong! Those aren't "quality items" they are snob-appeal items.



(They are obviously not good enough to prevent people ditching them in
favour of downloads for the same sort of money! :-)


I'm afraid you are the only one up a gum-tree he I never mentioned
'better fidelity' - you did, read it again!


I know you didn't, you said "good". but since we talking about an object
whose only reason for existance is to deliver an audio signal it's
"goodness" is essentially it's ability to deliver a high fidelity audio
signal.




Streuth, work it out for yourself! The fact that so many people download
music (at CD prices?) demonstrates clearly that those people don't
consider it worth waiting for the physical CD. If the physical CD was
worth it and they *cared* they would buy the frigging CDs, wouldn't they?

Savvy? :-)

I see. What a *really* strange way of looking at things. Why would people
care about the physical CD?, it's what's on the CD they are buying, not the
physical object. An LPCM 44.1/16bit download *is* a CD as far as audio
quality and content are concerned. And in case you've been under the
illusion that *I* care about CDs as physical objects, I don't. I care about
audio quality, and currently the CD offers better audio quality than most
downloads do. If that changes, and the pricing is acceptable, I'd be quite
happy to buy downloads.

I didn't miss that point at all. CDs are actually unneccesarily good, in
terms of audio quality, for the mainstream domestic market. That market
is quite happy with mp3s.



Yep. I'll go along with that - thus what music is available nowadays is
(apparently) largely dictated by kids or kidults with iPods!


What's changed? The music that is available depends on what music gets
bought. In the past most record sales were to kids with Dansettes, nowadays
the kids have iPods (which, incidentally, deliver far better audio quality
than the Dansettes ever did).

David.