"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

But that what this group does - try anything to do with the enjoyment of
'hifi' per se and the sounds you get from it and it soon gets ****ed on
by
a small group of smartarses* who think they have got the all the answers
'in the numbers' and who start braying 'you can't alter the laws of
physics' or somesuch with the effect that the 'enthusiasts' all got fed
up
with hearing it** and buggered off a long time ago.


Oh please Keith!, do you really think that little bit of self-indulgent
sour
grapes does you any favours?

The thing is you weren't here to see it happen - a general 'recreational'
group for 'hifi' enthusiasts reduced to a pitful handful of 'ex-trade
types' who hadn't got the decency to **** off to the 'pro' and 'tech'
groups but spent endless hours *putting people right* in this group to the
extent they all eventually buggered off.

We lost at least two 'Davids' who I still hear from from time to time.

Goliath went too:-)

I can't recall any "ex-trade types". Audio manufacturers,
amp designers, amp builders and audio journalists tend
to avoid groups such as this one like the plague.

There were a number of very interesting people,
a Scotsman who had been a Royal Navy signals
officer (radio not flags:-) two chaps from the Beeb
whom I brought along, a local radio producer, a
couple of semi-pro musicians, an ex copper, and
several other very interesting people, who kept the
discussion brisk and very interesting.

There were a similar number of casual posters.

All of these got fed up with being told they were
totally wrong, by others whose only delight in
life seemed to be armchair critique.

In those days the language was a lot more
colourful than it is now, and several found
it offensive. This aspect improved
considerably when Stewart left, and Arny
found The Lord Jesus.

I helped several to get membership of closed
groups, where they are still active posters.
Others still keep in touch.

Recently, when Jim and I were discussing the
construction of woodwinds, I asked a chap
who had contacted me directly (a former
designer at Boosey and Hawkes fropm the
time when Buffet Crampon, makers of the
world's finest clarinets, oboes and bassoons
were part of the same concern) to join the
discussion and give us "the real lowdown"

He replied: "And be called witless and incompetent
by people who probably don't know which end
of a clarinet to blow into? No thanks!"

Iain