"No Win No Fee" wrote in message
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David Looser wrote:



Why don't you try finding out what the law *actually* says before
posting? As I said before it's a good idea to get your facts right before
calling other people names.

I do, I know my subject, it's you who leaps in without the facts.
The thread was evolving in context of Keef donating a CD to a charity shop
which would re-sell the "pre-owned" CD, all perfectly legal.

It is, of course, perfectly legal to sell a CD second-hand, or to donate it
to a charity shop which then resells it. All that is, as you say, perfectly
legal. However had that CD been ripped to a computer, mp3 player or whatever
by the original owner, then that ripped copy becomes unlicensed as a result
of the disposal of the original disc as the licence has now been transferred
to the new owner of the original disc, and thus retaining or listening to
the copy is a breach of copyright law. Keith's original statement was that,
if he was given a CD, he would rip it to an mp3 and then donate the CD. This
rip would be an unlicensed and thus illegal copy as soon as he donated the
original CD.


But I am right,

Sorry, but you aren't right. Check your facts.


I didn't say otherwise, you need to calm down and re-read the thread.
I obviously threw in a few clues to bait and you fell in head first.
You all did as instructed and googled SCMS and DRM,

Sorry to disappoint you but I did no googling, I didn't need to.

It wasn't me who said copy protection was not included in CD, It is-

No, you said that it was:-

quote
"Copy protection code incorporated into commercial CD/DVD's allows
for one copy to be produced.
unquote

There is no "copy-protection code" on a CD, whilst that on a DVD does not
allow *any* copying.


And that is from 2003, and it has evolved further since then.
A few lobbed in the Red Book standard, they didn't do their homework,

The "Red Book" specification, which defines what an "audio CD" is, has not
changed. There have been a few attempts to market CDs with DRMs, but these
attempts have now been abandoned due to problems caused to legitimate users
of these CDs. These DRM CDs are not "Red Book" CDs, nor can they use the
"Compact Disc Digital Audio" logo.

now there will be further frenzied googling by the clueless clique
and still none of you will get it right.

Again I have to point out that the one who still hasn't got it right is
yourself.

David.