Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 15.49.33 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Iain Churches wrote:
maanantai 24. heinäkuuta 2017 3.16.27 UTC+3 ~misfit~ kirjoitti:
Once upon a time on usenet Phil Allison wrote:
Graham. wrote:

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I thought a monitor was a speaker that was pointed at the
performer rather than the audience. What's the correct name for
that?



** Correctly called an "on stage monitor" or "foldback wedge."

The boxes are typically wedge shaped to sit on a stage with the
front baffle at 45 degrees to the horizontal.

Yep, here in NZ back in the 80s they were reffered to as 'foldback
monitors' and were placed on stage just in front of the mic stands,
angled to face up at the mic position. They usually just contained
one or two 6" midrange drivers, at least the ones I worked with
did. (No tweeter as that would cause more of an issue with high
frequency feedback.) --


These days foldback systems may include in ear transducers, so the
term "wedges" is preferable for the stage foldback monitors.
Mixing foldback is quite an art, to give everyone on the stage
exactly precisely what he/she wants to hear with no feedback:-)
Often with a bigger band on stage, several layers of foldback might
be needed, starting with just backline. Good concert rigs have a
separate foldback mixer, which can be divided into subgroups just
as one might do for the main monitors. If you know the material
well or have a control score, you can lift fills and figures, and
put the same detail into foldback as you would into the main mix.

Yep. I only did a bit of foldback mixing back in the day and that
was only vocals. I see most performers use in-ear now. As you say
that would solve the problems with feedback I used to get sometimes.
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In-ear has its limitations, but is a very useful addition to the
foldback possibilities. Many experienced players, especially back
and midline want as little as possible in the foldback. "Just give me
bass and BD"

Others (think they) want everything. In-ear foldback and headphone
foldback in general can give some performers difficulty with
intonation.

Were you involved with the admin of the band you were with?
Musicians are notoriously bad in business matters, and anyone who can
add up the gig fees on a table napkin and deduct the agent and
taxman, and divide the result by the number of band and crew, is
usually welcome in any band:-)

Actually the keyboard player / synths / trumpet / 2nd rythm guitarist /
sometime lead-vocalist (all one person) was also the electronics whizz *and*
admin. He was a very clever bloke, not your typical 'muso' at all. Even
after I joined and took over the mixing duties he was the guy who ran all
the wiring and set up the amps - it's something he just didn't want to let
go of.

He was also chief solderer and was always fixing the guitarists effects
pedals etc.

The big band in which I play, although not a pro band, is run like
one. It is registered as a company. We have a chairman and a
committee. We handle sales and PR ourselves, but have an agent
through whom invoices are generated and tax and social costs are
paid. No one in the band, with the exception of the conductor/leader
who is a professional musician, gets paid. Most players are
sufficiently well-healed, to regard the opportunity to play in a
well-run band to capacity audiences as reward enough.

It sounds like a lot of fun.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)