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Johan Wagener January 20th 04 07:42 PM

subwoofer parameters
 
what parameters determines the performance of a subwoofer? XMax is how much
the cone can move in and out?(bigger better) ; Fs - the lowest frequency
(lower better?) ; SPL - higher better?



Mark Zarella January 20th 04 09:15 PM

subwoofer parameters
 
This may or may not be of help:

http://www.mobileaudio.com/rac-faq/rac-faq_4.html

"Johan Wagener" wrote in message
...
what parameters determines the performance of a subwoofer? XMax is how

much
the cone can move in and out?(bigger better) ; Fs - the lowest frequency
(lower better?) ; SPL - higher better?





John Durbin January 21st 04 03:02 AM

subwoofer parameters
 
Xmax and power handling can be extracted from the overall groupof
parameters and interpreted that way, but as soon as you get into the
other Thiele/Small parameters (Fs, Vas, Qts, etc.) you should really not
try and extrapolate driver performance by looking at them individually
or other than as a whole. People that have worked with driver parameters
their whole lives may be able to shortcut some of the number crunching
and judge performance differences by looking at only a few
characteristics, but if you lack that experience do yourself a favor and
plug ALL the numbers into one of the many free web-posted driver
modeling programs, like WinISD etc. and let the software do the work.

JD

Johan Wagener wrote:

what parameters determines the performance of a subwoofer? XMax is how much
the cone can move in and out?(bigger better) ; Fs - the lowest frequency
(lower better?) ; SPL - higher better?






Avanti January 21st 04 06:33 PM

subwoofer parameters
 

"Johan Wagener" wrote in message
...
what parameters determines the performance of a subwoofer? XMax is how

much
the cone can move in and out?(bigger better)


Not necessarily.

; Fs - the lowest frequency
(lower better?) ;


Not necessarily.

SPL - higher better?

Definately NOT.
Better sounds subs will always have a low SPL.




Paul Vina January 22nd 04 12:16 AM

subwoofer parameters
 
Not true. My IDMAX sounds awesome and gets stupid loud. So does the Adire
Brahma and the eD A-series.


Paul Vina




Definately NOT.
Better sounds subs will always have a low SPL.






John Durbin January 22nd 04 03:00 AM

subwoofer parameters
 
Sorry, but that is 100% not true... there are very good sounding
speakers in the world that have relatively high "SPL", i.e. sensitivity.

Granted, driver designers sometimes sacrifice sensitivity to achieve
lower Fs, or for other reasons, but it's never the only solution.

JD

Avanti wrote:

"Johan Wagener" wrote in message
...


what parameters determines the performance of a subwoofer? XMax is how


much


the cone can move in and out?(bigger better)



Not necessarily.

; Fs - the lowest frequency


(lower better?) ;



Not necessarily.

SPL - higher better?

Definately NOT.
Better sounds subs will always have a low SPL.







John Durbin January 22nd 04 03:00 AM

subwoofer parameters
 
I think he was referring specifically to sensitivity, as rated in dB SPL
but either way it's not a true statement.

JD

Paul Vina wrote:

Not true. My IDMAX sounds awesome and gets stupid loud. So does the Adire
Brahma and the eD A-series.


Paul Vina






Definately NOT.
Better sounds subs will always have a low SPL.











Tha Ghee January 22nd 04 06:08 AM

subwoofer parameters
 
the dBW can sometimes be used, I know it is in home audio, but enclosure and cars have the biggest affect on sound next to parameters
"John Durbin" wrote in message ...
I think he was referring specifically to sensitivity, as rated in dB SPL but either way it's not a true statement.

JD

Paul Vina wrote:

Not true. My IDMAX sounds awesome and gets stupid loud. So does the Adire
Brahma and the eD A-series.


Paul Vina




Definately NOT.
Better sounds subs will always have a low SPL.







Avanti January 22nd 04 07:27 PM

subwoofer parameters
 

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:cwFPb.99044$sv6.411357@attbi_s52...
Not true. My IDMAX sounds awesome and gets stupid loud. So does the

Adire
Brahma and the eD A-series.


Any speaker gets loud, if you want high fidelity sound then a speaker with a
lower dB/W will usually be the better sounding one, all other factors being
equal, also you will find the lower SPL speaker will work better than the
higher one in a smaller box,
obviously you do not beleive me and I don't give a hoot, but you may believe
JL, they have or certainley used to have a good explanation as to why on
their website.
Question how come the better quality subs have lower spl/w than the el
cheapo versions, ie JL, Infinity ZR- Apline, DLS, Kicker vs Pine lower cost
Kenwood Pioneer, Jet Sound etc....



Avanti January 22nd 04 08:05 PM

subwoofer parameters
 

"Avanti" wrote in message
...

"Paul Vina" wrote in message
news:cwFPb.99044$sv6.411357@attbi_s52...
Not true. My IDMAX sounds awesome and gets stupid loud. So does the

Adire
Brahma and the eD A-series.


Any speaker gets loud, if you want high fidelity sound then a speaker with

a
lower dB/W will usually be the better sounding one, all other factors

being
equal, also you will find the lower SPL speaker will work better than the
higher one in a smaller box,


Further to the above, the SPL is usually measured at 1khz, far above the
frequency you want pumping through your subwoofer.




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