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Old January 26th 04, 11:19 PM posted to rec.audio.car,uk.rec.audio.car
David Precious
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Forest wrote:


They look nice, they are cheap, and there is a lot of choice basically.
Conventional hi-fi speakers cones are boring. I realise I won't be making
a great sounding piece of furniture, but it will be unique.


.... looking back through thread...

As my friend makes coffins I thought he could make my the box.



Hmm, a coffin with built-in ICE? Now that *would* be unique!

That's how I want to be buried g

Cheers

Dave P




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Old January 24th 04, 07:45 PM posted to rec.audio.car,uk.rec.audio.car
Mark Zarella
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I had this idea for a summer project to keep me entertained:

I have been reading about making home stereo speakers.

I want to do this using car speakers, not traditionally hi-fi speakers,
anyone tried it?

I like the look of Kenwood and Sony models, and I have my eye on the
KFC-1758S and XS-V1633.

It's just an idea for a project for the summer. I have a stereo amp which
will switch between 4 (cars) and 8 (Hi-Fi) ohms. I want to use this to

drive
car speakers but
someone has told me that it won't work as cars fun on 12 volts (which I
knew). But thinking
about it and applying Ohms law (V = I x r) I don't see why the 12 volts
supplied by the battery
matters.


It matters because it simply will not turn on if you provide 12 volts DC to
an amplifier that needs 110 volts AC to run.

I am aware of the 4 ohm (car) and 8 ohm (hi-fi) difference. Any other
problems? Anyone have any experience?

Also, are all car speakers 4 ohms out of interest?


No, not all. But most.


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Old January 24th 04, 09:17 PM posted to rec.audio.car,uk.rec.audio.car
Forest
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Which amps need 12 volts DC, and which 110 volts AC?

If you have a speaker of 4 ohms, and you gradually turn the volume up, the
current through the speakers would presumably increase, and the voltage
would adjust. Would it?

What would happen if u used a hi-fi amp to drive car speakers then?


"Mark Zarella" wrote in message
...
I had this idea for a summer project to keep me entertained:

I have been reading about making home stereo speakers.

I want to do this using car speakers, not traditionally hi-fi speakers,
anyone tried it?

I like the look of Kenwood and Sony models, and I have my eye on the
KFC-1758S and XS-V1633.

It's just an idea for a project for the summer. I have a stereo amp

which
will switch between 4 (cars) and 8 (Hi-Fi) ohms. I want to use this to

drive
car speakers but
someone has told me that it won't work as cars fun on 12 volts (which I
knew). But thinking
about it and applying Ohms law (V = I x r) I don't see why the 12 volts
supplied by the battery
matters.


It matters because it simply will not turn on if you provide 12 volts DC

to
an amplifier that needs 110 volts AC to run.

I am aware of the 4 ohm (car) and 8 ohm (hi-fi) difference. Any other
problems? Anyone have any experience?

Also, are all car speakers 4 ohms out of interest?


No, not all. But most.




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Old January 24th 04, 09:25 PM posted to rec.audio.car,uk.rec.audio.car
Mark Zarella
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Default car audio hi-fi

Which amps need 12 volts DC, and which 110 volts AC?

Car amps need 12vdc and home amps need 110vac.

If you have a speaker of 4 ohms, and you gradually turn the volume up, the
current through the speakers would presumably increase, and the voltage
would adjust. Would it?


No, the voltage at the output is (relatively) independent of the load
presented. Decrease the impedance of the load and you'll increase the
current (and thus the power) delivered to the load.

What would happen if u used a hi-fi amp to drive car speakers then?


It will run car speakers fine. You said it was stable at 4 ohms.


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Old January 25th 04, 12:34 AM posted to rec.audio.car,uk.rec.audio.car
Forest
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Default car audio hi-fi

I take it you are from the States, we use 240 volts here but i see your
point. I am not planning to use a car amp at all so the volt problem isn't
relavent

Thanks, J

"Mark Zarella" wrote in message
...
Which amps need 12 volts DC, and which 110 volts AC?


Car amps need 12vdc and home amps need 110vac.

If you have a speaker of 4 ohms, and you gradually turn the volume up,

the
current through the speakers would presumably increase, and the voltage
would adjust. Would it?


No, the voltage at the output is (relatively) independent of the load
presented. Decrease the impedance of the load and you'll increase the
current (and thus the power) delivered to the load.

What would happen if u used a hi-fi amp to drive car speakers then?


It will run car speakers fine. You said it was stable at 4 ohms.




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Old January 24th 04, 07:46 PM posted to rec.audio.car,uk.rec.audio.car
Eddie Runner
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no problems at all if your home amp likes the car stereo
speakers 4 ohm impedance... (most will work just fine)

I have car woofers in one pair of my home speakers and
they sound great!

Several years back at the CES show in Vegas John Durbin
(DEI car audio) had some nice looking home speakers in
a very nice listening area (which is common in all the booths
with home stereo) but suprise suprise they were car audio
speakers... I guess John was trying to show the *car speakers*
were capable of competing with the big dogs in a home audio
industry.... It was an impressive suprise for me, a demo
asking for contoversial comments and not to be easily forgotten...

Eddie


Forest wrote:

I had this idea for a summer project to keep me entertained:

I have been reading about making home stereo speakers.

I want to do this using car speakers, not traditionally hi-fi speakers,
anyone tried it?

I like the look of Kenwood and Sony models, and I have my eye on the
KFC-1758S and XS-V1633.

It's just an idea for a project for the summer. I have a stereo amp which
will switch between 4 (cars) and 8 (Hi-Fi) ohms. I want to use this to drive
car speakers but
someone has told me that it won't work as cars fun on 12 volts (which I
knew). But thinking
about it and applying Ohms law (V = I x r) I don't see why the 12 volts
supplied by the battery
matters.

I am aware of the 4 ohm (car) and 8 ohm (hi-fi) difference. Any other
problems? Anyone have any experience?

Also, are all car speakers 4 ohms out of interest?

Thanks


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Old January 25th 04, 12:14 AM posted to rec.audio.car,uk.rec.audio.car
Forest
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Default car audio hi-fi

Thanks Eddie, at least there is hope!


"Eddie Runner" wrote in message
...
no problems at all if your home amp likes the car stereo
speakers 4 ohm impedance... (most will work just fine)

I have car woofers in one pair of my home speakers and
they sound great!

Several years back at the CES show in Vegas John Durbin
(DEI car audio) had some nice looking home speakers in
a very nice listening area (which is common in all the booths
with home stereo) but suprise suprise they were car audio
speakers... I guess John was trying to show the *car speakers*
were capable of competing with the big dogs in a home audio
industry.... It was an impressive suprise for me, a demo
asking for contoversial comments and not to be easily forgotten...

Eddie


Forest wrote:

I had this idea for a summer project to keep me entertained:

I have been reading about making home stereo speakers.

I want to do this using car speakers, not traditionally hi-fi speakers,
anyone tried it?

I like the look of Kenwood and Sony models, and I have my eye on the
KFC-1758S and XS-V1633.

It's just an idea for a project for the summer. I have a stereo amp

which
will switch between 4 (cars) and 8 (Hi-Fi) ohms. I want to use this to

drive
car speakers but
someone has told me that it won't work as cars fun on 12 volts (which I
knew). But thinking
about it and applying Ohms law (V = I x r) I don't see why the 12 volts
supplied by the battery
matters.

I am aware of the 4 ohm (car) and 8 ohm (hi-fi) difference. Any other
problems? Anyone have any experience?

Also, are all car speakers 4 ohms out of interest?

Thanks




 




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