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Hands free car kit not powering up



 
 
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Old August 11th 07, 03:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Dr Zoidberg
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Ged wrote:
Has it got a decent earth?


Yes.
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Old August 11th 07, 04:03 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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On Aug 11, 4:30 pm, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote:
Ged wrote:
Has it got a decent earth?


Yes.
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.ukwww.ebayfaq.co.uk


What year is the vehicle? If its a newer model it might have CAN/VAN/
Multiplex wiring. Some ignition feeds will drop out and do funny
things under very little current draw.

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Old August 11th 07, 04:34 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Ged wrote:
On Aug 11, 4:30 pm, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote:
Ged wrote:
Has it got a decent earth?


Yes.
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.ukwww.ebayfaq.co.uk


What year is the vehicle? If its a newer model it might have CAN/VAN/
Multiplex wiring. Some ignition feeds will drop out and do funny
things under very little current draw.


It's an 06 octavia and it does have CAN-Bus wiring
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk


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Old August 11th 07, 05:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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It's an 06 octavia and it does have CAN-Bus wiring
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.ukwww.ebayfaq.co.uk


Are you using the ignition feed at the head unit? If you are I would
probably try running a feed from the barrel or lighter socket (if its
12v ign), pick a nice think wire. The ones at the head unit and other
locations are probably linked into the CAN bus stuff. I don't really
understand CAN bus but I know it does some funky stuff when you try
tapping anything onto it, any current draw can cause problems.


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Old August 11th 07, 05:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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12v ign), pick a nice think wire. The ones at the head unit and other



.....not sure what a think wire is...probably best to try a thick
wire



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Old August 11th 07, 05:31 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Ged wrote:
It's an 06 octavia and it does have CAN-Bus wiring
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.ukwww.ebayfaq.co.uk


Are you using the ignition feed at the head unit?


Nope , into the fuse box onto a couple of spare terminals
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk


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Old August 11th 07, 07:16 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Nope , into the fuse box onto a couple of spare terminals
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.ukwww.ebayfaq.co.uk


Hmmm, I would try going onto the back of the barrel or lighter.....it
would rule out any problems on the ignition at least.

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Old August 11th 07, 07:25 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
...
Ged wrote:
It's an 06 octavia and it does have CAN-Bus wiring
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.ukwww.ebayfaq.co.uk


Are you using the ignition feed at the head unit?


Nope , into the fuse box onto a couple of spare terminals


With it being CAN Bus, the fuse box most likely isn't just a fuse box. It'll
have a CAN controller built in, and chances are you've probably picked up
two fuses that are controlled by the CAN controller for optional extras.
Hence the strange goings on with voltages.

Professional installers will always take a feed direct from the battery, and
unless they can find a suitable ignition controlled wire, they'll wire the
kit up so it's permanently on. It just means you don't get the option of the
phone turning off with the ignition (most handsfree kits will work with the
igntion off anyway).


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Old August 11th 07, 09:53 PM posted to uk.rec.audio.car,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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moray wrote:
"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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Ged wrote:
It's an 06 octavia and it does have CAN-Bus wiring
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.ukwww.ebayfaq.co.uk

Are you using the ignition feed at the head unit?


Nope , into the fuse box onto a couple of spare terminals


With it being CAN Bus, the fuse box most likely isn't just a fuse
box. It'll have a CAN controller built in, and chances are you've
probably picked up two fuses that are controlled by the CAN
controller for optional extras.


The fuse that I've used for the switched live is labelled with a phone
symbol , suggesting it's designed for a car kit.
The other one I can't remember off the top of my head.

Hence the strange goings on with voltages.


Indeed.

Professional installers will always take a feed direct from the
battery, and unless they can find a suitable ignition controlled
wire, they'll wire the kit up so it's permanently on. It just means
you don't get the option of the phone turning off with the ignition
(most handsfree kits will work with the igntion off anyway).


I'd rather not have the continual drain , even if it is low.
Looks like I'll have to try and find a route through from the engine bay for
a permanent 12v though
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk


 




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