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Old November 28th 03, 03:05 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Ethan Winer
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RT,

Found this very interesting article


I'm all for debunking nonsense, but in the guise of doing that I spotted
this howler:

"We generally recommend about 5-7% of total system cost."

In my opinion $10 is the most one should spend on a normal length of speaker
cable, regardless of how much the rest of the system cost.

--Ethan


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Old November 28th 03, 03:57 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Arny Krueger
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"Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote in message

RT,

Found this very interesting article


I'm all for debunking nonsense, but in the guise of doing that I
spotted this howler:


"We generally recommend about 5-7% of total system cost."


Agreed, this doesn't belong in any factual discussion of audio gear. It
fails on two counts - one being that percentage breakdowns of system costs
are often bogus, secondly because paying $70 for cables in a $1000 system is
like paying about $50 too much.

In fact the interconnects that come with the components generally suffice,
and $20 worth of 12 gauge should suffice for most if not all systems, even
5.1 systems.

In my opinion $10 is the most one should spend on a normal length of
speaker cable, regardless of how much the rest of the system cost.


Agreed for a 2 channel system.


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Old November 29th 03, 08:25 AM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Stuart Stebbings
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote in message

RT,

Found this very interesting article


I'm all for debunking nonsense, but in the guise of doing that I
spotted this howler:


"We generally recommend about 5-7% of total system cost."


Agreed, this doesn't belong in any factual discussion of audio gear. It
fails on two counts - one being that percentage breakdowns of system costs
are often bogus, secondly because paying $70 for cables in a $1000 system is
like paying about $50 too much.

In fact the interconnects that come with the components generally suffice,
and $20 worth of 12 gauge should suffice for most if not all systems, even
5.1 systems.

In my opinion $10 is the most one should spend on a normal length of
speaker cable, regardless of how much the rest of the system cost.


Agreed for a 2 channel system.


Actually genrleman
I think you are being a little unkind and selectively quoting.
If you read the entire article the says that 5-& % is the absolute
maximum and uses a phrase like "spend as little as is reuired to get
the job done"

He also goes on to say that there is nothing wrong with spending if
you want the aesthestics of a particular cable brand.

The overall feel of the article is the same as your own views. Maybe
the problem is the poor grammar and writing style.?
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Old November 29th 03, 10:52 AM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Dave Plowman
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In article ,
Stuart Stebbings wrote:
He also goes on to say that there is nothing wrong with spending if
you want the aesthestics of a particular cable brand.


Quite. If I spent a fortune on designer gear and you could see the back,
I'd expect to spend a fortune on designer cables.

If only they sold them on looks rather than performance the argument could
end right here...

--
*If a thing is worth doing, wouldn't it have been done already?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old November 29th 03, 10:52 AM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Dave Plowman
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Default The Final Word on Audio Cables

In article ,
Stuart Stebbings wrote:
He also goes on to say that there is nothing wrong with spending if
you want the aesthestics of a particular cable brand.


Quite. If I spent a fortune on designer gear and you could see the back,
I'd expect to spend a fortune on designer cables.

If only they sold them on looks rather than performance the argument could
end right here...

--
*If a thing is worth doing, wouldn't it have been done already?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old November 29th 03, 01:43 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Ethan Winer
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Default The Final Word on Audio Cables

Stuart,

The overall feel of the article is the same as your own views.


Yes, thanks for keeping this on point.

--Ethan


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Old November 30th 03, 03:30 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Stuart Stebbings
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Default The Final Word on Audio Cables

"Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote in message ...
Stuart,

The overall feel of the article is the same as your own views.


Yes, thanks for keeping this on point.

--Ethan


I re-read my post... My word what terrible typing. Many apologises for that!

I shall slope off and do some practice.
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Old November 30th 03, 03:30 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Stuart Stebbings
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Default The Final Word on Audio Cables

"Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote in message ...
Stuart,

The overall feel of the article is the same as your own views.


Yes, thanks for keeping this on point.

--Ethan


I re-read my post... My word what terrible typing. Many apologises for that!

I shall slope off and do some practice.
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Old November 29th 03, 01:43 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Ethan Winer
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Default The Final Word on Audio Cables

Stuart,

The overall feel of the article is the same as your own views.


Yes, thanks for keeping this on point.

--Ethan


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Old November 29th 03, 08:25 AM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio,alt.home-theater.misc
Stuart Stebbings
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Default The Final Word on Audio Cables

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote in message

RT,

Found this very interesting article


I'm all for debunking nonsense, but in the guise of doing that I
spotted this howler:


"We generally recommend about 5-7% of total system cost."


Agreed, this doesn't belong in any factual discussion of audio gear. It
fails on two counts - one being that percentage breakdowns of system costs
are often bogus, secondly because paying $70 for cables in a $1000 system is
like paying about $50 too much.

In fact the interconnects that come with the components generally suffice,
and $20 worth of 12 gauge should suffice for most if not all systems, even
5.1 systems.

In my opinion $10 is the most one should spend on a normal length of
speaker cable, regardless of how much the rest of the system cost.


Agreed for a 2 channel system.


Actually genrleman
I think you are being a little unkind and selectively quoting.
If you read the entire article the says that 5-& % is the absolute
maximum and uses a phrase like "spend as little as is reuired to get
the job done"

He also goes on to say that there is nothing wrong with spending if
you want the aesthestics of a particular cable brand.

The overall feel of the article is the same as your own views. Maybe
the problem is the poor grammar and writing style.?
 




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