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"Budget" hifi gear: recommendations?



 
 
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Old July 23rd 03, 12:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Julian Fowler
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Default "Budget" hifi gear: recommendations?

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:06:00 +0100, "MrBitsy"
wrote:


"Julian Fowler" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:28:46 +0100, "Ray Keattch"
wrote:


"db" wrote in message
...
Don't spend money on snake-oil interconnects............

I have tried 4 different interconnects resulting in 4 different sounds

from
my system. Interconnects were £60.


Well, of course they sound *different*. The manufacturers wouldn't be
doing a very good job of their £60 interconnects made absolutely no
difference to the sound, compared to the basic phono leads supplied w/
most new pieces of kit.


OK,


Similarly, there's no reason why you shouldn't *prefer* the sound of
the £60 interconnect.


Reasonable


The question, though, is whether the £60 cables are
objectively/technically *better* than those costing 10% of the price
(where "better" here means that the signal coming out of the cables
should be the as near as damnit the same as that going in to them).


Does it matter? I am interested in the sound that gets to my ears. Whatever
they did to the cable, that I am prepared to pay for, made the music sound
good to me.

Isn't that what matters?


Not necessarily ... my interest is in hearing music as intended by the
artists/engineers/producers involved, not as "interpreted" by systems
or components that deliberately alter the sound (irrespective of how
"pleasurable" that alteration might be perceived by some).

Now, if (as more than a few people have suggested), a well constructed
cable that costs less than a quid to make up yourself, or less than a
tenner to buy ready-made, is perfectly adequate in terms of the the
output = input test, what does that say about the "better sounding"
£60 (or £600, or ...) interconnect. Could it be (gasp) that the
manufacturers have conciously engineered the more expensive cables
such that output input?

Again, you keep coming to this from the facts and figures - I am only
interested in the sound.


Me too.

We all have a sound that we like


Yes - the sound made by the performers whose music I like to listen
to. I listen to music, not hi-fi systems.

and maybe others
don't. If I feel something in my system benefitted me then I see no reason
why I shouldn't tell somebody to give it a try.

You never know, maybe some of the people reading the advice may be only
interested in the sound and hasn't got a meter stuck up their arse.


Who said anything about meters? There's some (very) basic physics and
engineering involved here - if cable X can convey a signal such that
output = input, and cable Y "sounds different" from cable X, then
whatever cable Y is doing is such that output input. Whether you
regard that "" as a Good Thing or a Bad Thing is subjective - but
you can't claim it doesn't exist!

Julian



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