"Ian Molton" wrote...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:25:32 -0000
"AJ" wrote:

You've got to remember that 12 quid is just the cost for
transferring
a single album. If you send them more than 10 the cost drops to
_7.99
per album. Didn't sound too bad.

The only person who would do it cheaper would be CMOT dibbler.

who?

if you had an hour of music it'd take at least an hour to do proper
QC
on it, let alone rip it in the first place!

I don't know how they do it. Maybe some of the process is automated,
for instance making the initial recording from the record? And then
maybe, even though they don't use software to actually remove the
defects, they could use software to identify them so that all the
operator has to do is manually rectify the problem? I don't know.
Sounds possible I guess.

I know when I tried to do it manually it did take an awful long time
and that's why in the end I'm contemplating using them.

AJ

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:12:11 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

You've got to remember that 12 quid is just the cost for transferring
a single album. If you send them more than 10 the cost drops to _7.99
per album. Didn't sound too bad.

The only person who would do it cheaper would be CMOT dibbler.

if you had an hour of music it'd take at least an hour to do proper QC
on it, let alone rip it in the first place!

8 ukp over 2 hours (min) is 4ukp / hour. thats worse than manual labour
wages.


It must be automated. A good unix box can have any many soundcards
sampling at once, and as many burners going. Add a few LP and CD-Rs
autochanger and you have a process that takes virtually zero man hours.

Given the price, I can't see how else it can be done. Maybe the worst
damaged LPs are fixed by hand.

Plus... I wonder for stuff that they get in all the time (DSOM etc) if
they don't just use the same CD image over and over and just send your
record back unplayed - who would know?

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:12:11 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

You've got to remember that 12 quid is just the cost for transferring
a single album. If you send them more than 10 the cost drops to _7.99
per album. Didn't sound too bad.

The only person who would do it cheaper would be CMOT dibbler.

if you had an hour of music it'd take at least an hour to do proper QC
on it, let alone rip it in the first place!

8 ukp over 2 hours (min) is 4ukp / hour. thats worse than manual labour
wages.


It must be automated. A good unix box can have any many soundcards
sampling at once, and as many burners going. Add a few LP and CD-Rs
autochanger and you have a process that takes virtually zero man hours.

Given the price, I can't see how else it can be done. Maybe the worst
damaged LPs are fixed by hand.

Plus... I wonder for stuff that they get in all the time (DSOM etc) if
they don't just use the same CD image over and over and just send your
record back unplayed - who would know?

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:25:32 -0000
"AJ" wrote:

You've got to remember that 12 quid is just the cost for transferring
a single album. If you send them more than 10 the cost drops to _7.99
per album. Didn't sound too bad.

The only person who would do it cheaper would be CMOT dibbler.

if you had an hour of music it'd take at least an hour to do proper QC
on it, let alone rip it in the first place!

8 ukp over 2 hours (min) is 4ukp / hour. thats worse than manual labour
wages.

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ketchup.

"Stimpy" wrote...
Clive Backham wrote:

2. They charge 11.99 per LP. This pricing seems very reasonable.
In
fact, I would go so far as to say that it's very cheap.

Surely *most* LP's are available on CD these days? I've certainly
picked up
a lot of stuff on CD that was once considered rare or unobtainable
on
album - and usually for a lot less than 12 quid

You've got to remember that 12 quid is just the cost for transferring
a single album. If you send them more than 10 the cost drops to £7.99
per album. Didn't sound too bad.

AJ

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:37:49 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Clive Backham wrote:

2. They charge 11.99 per LP. This pricing seems very reasonable. In
fact, I would go so far as to say that it's very cheap.

Surely *most* LP's are available on CD these days? I've certainly picked up
a lot of stuff on CD that was once considered rare or unobtainable on
album - and usually for a lot less than 12 quid

Sorry, of course this is a given. If the album is available on CD,
then buy it. Only transfer an LP if one of the following applies:
1. Not available on CD.
2. CD version is badly mastered.
3. CD version is altered in some way (eg. remixed, abridged, etc).

"Clive Backham" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:37:49 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Clive Backham wrote:

2. They charge 11.99 per LP. This pricing seems very reasonable. In
fact, I would go so far as to say that it's very cheap.

Surely *most* LP's are available on CD these days? I've certainly picked
up
a lot of stuff on CD that was once considered rare or unobtainable on
album - and usually for a lot less than 12 quid

Sorry, of course this is a given. If the album is available on CD,
then buy it. Only transfer an LP if one of the following applies:
1. Not available on CD.
2. CD version is badly mastered.
3. CD version is altered in some way (eg. remixed, abridged, etc).



Or unless you just happen to prefer the sound of the LP version.....

(Happened on this group a few times, a week or two back!)

"Clive Backham" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:37:49 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Clive Backham wrote:

2. They charge 11.99 per LP. This pricing seems very reasonable. In
fact, I would go so far as to say that it's very cheap.

Surely *most* LP's are available on CD these days? I've certainly picked
up
a lot of stuff on CD that was once considered rare or unobtainable on
album - and usually for a lot less than 12 quid

Sorry, of course this is a given. If the album is available on CD,
then buy it. Only transfer an LP if one of the following applies:
1. Not available on CD.
2. CD version is badly mastered.
3. CD version is altered in some way (eg. remixed, abridged, etc).



Or unless you just happen to prefer the sound of the LP version.....

(Happened on this group a few times, a week or two back!)

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:37:49 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Clive Backham wrote:

2. They charge 11.99 per LP. This pricing seems very reasonable. In
fact, I would go so far as to say that it's very cheap.

Surely *most* LP's are available on CD these days? I've certainly picked up
a lot of stuff on CD that was once considered rare or unobtainable on
album - and usually for a lot less than 12 quid

Sorry, of course this is a given. If the album is available on CD,
then buy it. Only transfer an LP if one of the following applies:
1. Not available on CD.
2. CD version is badly mastered.
3. CD version is altered in some way (eg. remixed, abridged, etc).

In message , Stimpy
writes
Clive Backham wrote:

2. They charge 11.99 per LP. This pricing seems very reasonable. In
fact, I would go so far as to say that it's very cheap.

Surely *most* LP's are available on CD these days? I've certainly picked up
a lot of stuff on CD that was once considered rare or unobtainable on
album - and usually for a lot less than 12 quid


If only. Although a surprising amount has had a limited CD release,
there's still a lot of cult 70s material that isn't available.
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