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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:55:40 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:


As for Sinéad, the first time I saw and heard nothing compares to you
was a real hair-on-the-back-of-the-neck moment.

Think that was just her whinging in the video. And those were real
tears, btw :)))

It was a supremely brave, exposed performance - particularly for a
debut.

But nothing she has
done since really hits the spot for me, and as for live...


For something a wee bit different try ... 'am I not your girl' ... just
for the sexy album cover at least :)

Now you're talking.

d

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:10:43 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

Debut?? .... what do you mean debut.

"Mandinka" was her debut single, 1987. Although she first appeared
(recorded) with Edge on the soundtrack of the film 'The Captive' 1986.
The first I suppose official Lp was 1987 ' The Lion and the Cobra ' (she
re-recorded it, best track IMO Troy - the Prince song 'Nothing
Compares 2 U' never appeared until 1990 on both 1990 albums ' I Do Not
Want What I Haven't Got' and/or 'The Lion in the Cage.'

Really? Well, it was a debut as far as I was concerned cos I never
came across any of that other stuff. I bet that applies to most people
(at least in England anyway) as well.

d

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:10:43 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

Debut?? .... what do you mean debut.

"Mandinka" was her debut single, 1987. Although she first appeared
(recorded) with Edge on the soundtrack of the film 'The Captive' 1986.
The first I suppose official Lp was 1987 ' The Lion and the Cobra ' (she
re-recorded it, best track IMO Troy - the Prince song 'Nothing
Compares 2 U' never appeared until 1990 on both 1990 albums ' I Do Not
Want What I Haven't Got' and/or 'The Lion in the Cage.'

Really? Well, it was a debut as far as I was concerned cos I never
came across any of that other stuff. I bet that applies to most people
(at least in England anyway) as well.

d

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:10:43 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

Debut?? .... what do you mean debut.

"Mandinka" was her debut single, 1987. Although she first appeared
(recorded) with Edge on the soundtrack of the film 'The Captive'
1986. The first I suppose official Lp was 1987 ' The Lion and the
Cobra ' (she re-recorded it, best track IMO Troy - the Prince song
'Nothing Compares 2 U' never appeared until 1990 on both 1990 albums
' I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got' and/or 'The Lion in the Cage.'

Really? Well, it was a debut as far as I was concerned cos I never
came across any of that other stuff. I bet that applies to most people
(at least in England anyway) as well.

Mandinka was a sizeable hit in the UK, it was all over the radio back in the
day, to the point where I remember feeling it was being 'overdone'.

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:10:43 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

Debut?? .... what do you mean debut.

"Mandinka" was her debut single, 1987. Although she first appeared
(recorded) with Edge on the soundtrack of the film 'The Captive'
1986. The first I suppose official Lp was 1987 ' The Lion and the
Cobra ' (she re-recorded it, best track IMO Troy - the Prince song
'Nothing Compares 2 U' never appeared until 1990 on both 1990 albums
' I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got' and/or 'The Lion in the Cage.'

Really? Well, it was a debut as far as I was concerned cos I never
came across any of that other stuff. I bet that applies to most people
(at least in England anyway) as well.

Mandinka was a sizeable hit in the UK, it was all over the radio back in the
day, to the point where I remember feeling it was being 'overdone'.

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Old Fart at Play wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:


As for Sinéad, the first time I saw and heard nothing compares to you
was a real hair-on-the-back-of-the-neck moment. But nothing she has
done since really hits the spot for me, and as for live...

You mean "nothing compares to that".

NC2U was apparently written by the artist formerly known as the
artist formerly known as Prince. Anyone heard his version?

Yes, personally I prefer it to the cover but, to be honest, it's a fairly
generic mid-period Prince song

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Old Fart at Play wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:


As for Sinéad, the first time I saw and heard nothing compares to you
was a real hair-on-the-back-of-the-neck moment. But nothing she has
done since really hits the spot for me, and as for live...

You mean "nothing compares to that".

NC2U was apparently written by the artist formerly known as the
artist formerly known as Prince. Anyone heard his version?

Yes, personally I prefer it to the cover but, to be honest, it's a fairly
generic mid-period Prince song

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:09:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:


I think Don must have been out of the country :)

Sinéad O'Connor moved to London in 1985 when she was signed to Ensign
Records. The debut (written, produced and mixed by Sinéad O'Connor) The Lion
and the Cobra, released to rave reviews in 1987 and finally making gold. The
single "Mandinka" from the same album made #17 UK chart position with 9
weeks in the UK chart, and helped earn her a Grammy award nomination for
Best Female Vocalist.



--
Ronnie

You're dead right - looking through my old passports, I was. Mind you,
a single called Mandinka would not have impinged on my consciousness
anyway.

d

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:09:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:


I think Don must have been out of the country :)

Sinéad O'Connor moved to London in 1985 when she was signed to Ensign
Records. The debut (written, produced and mixed by Sinéad O'Connor) The Lion
and the Cobra, released to rave reviews in 1987 and finally making gold. The
single "Mandinka" from the same album made #17 UK chart position with 9
weeks in the UK chart, and helped earn her a Grammy award nomination for
Best Female Vocalist.



--
Ronnie

You're dead right - looking through my old passports, I was. Mind you,
a single called Mandinka would not have impinged on my consciousness
anyway.

d

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:27:43 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

Don, it would seems you've listened to Sinéad O'Connor as much as you've
listened to the Cranberries :)


You've been to a live Sinéad O'Connor gig and you've never heard her do
Mandinka?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???????????????


Don, how long were you actually living in Timbuctoo? :)))


I may well have heard her do Mandinka at that gig - but I wouldn't
have recognised it. I was just too ****ed off at all her "hey, I'm a
rock star" crap. At least Dolores just stood there and sang rather
well.

And it was Kabul (no, that was last year - '85 was Kuwait).

d

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:27:43 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

Don, it would seems you've listened to Sinéad O'Connor as much as you've
listened to the Cranberries :)


You've been to a live Sinéad O'Connor gig and you've never heard her do
Mandinka?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???????????????


Don, how long were you actually living in Timbuctoo? :)))


I may well have heard her do Mandinka at that gig - but I wouldn't
have recognised it. I was just too ****ed off at all her "hey, I'm a
rock star" crap. At least Dolores just stood there and sang rather
well.

And it was Kabul (no, that was last year - '85 was Kuwait).

d

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:10:25 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:

I may well have heard her do Mandinka at that gig - but I wouldn't
have recognised it. I was just too ****ed off at all her "hey, I'm a
rock star" crap.

She has dropped all that 'rock star' crap now. Just recently on a TV
interview she claimed her greatest desire was to be Ireland's female
Christy Moore.

If you don't know who Christy Moore is that will be rather meaningless to
you :))

OK, I will go and find some Christy Moore - always up for something
new.

At least Dolores just stood there and sang rather well.


I've never seen Dolores just stand there at any of the live Cranberries'
concerts I've been to. Would be nice. She is one of the most energetic acts
I ever clapped eyes on. Radio mic in hand and not one inch of the stage left
unexplored. I've always been totally exhausted just watching her romp around
the place. Fit as a fiddle, as we say over here.

I've never been a Cranberries fan as such, and I've certainly never
seen them. Over here, though, she would be as fit as a butcher's dog.
Actually, if she'd tried running around on that pub stage she'd have
ended up behind the bar.

And it was Kabul (no, that was last year - '85 was Kuwait).

This year!! .... 'way down in a hole' ... (that's a song title btw, not by
a Celtic Yelp more an American spit and gravel voice)

Nothing to do with Saddam, then? Looks like Baghdad may be my next
port of call.

d

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:10:25 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:

I may well have heard her do Mandinka at that gig - but I wouldn't
have recognised it. I was just too ****ed off at all her "hey, I'm a
rock star" crap.

She has dropped all that 'rock star' crap now. Just recently on a TV
interview she claimed her greatest desire was to be Ireland's female
Christy Moore.

If you don't know who Christy Moore is that will be rather meaningless to
you :))

OK, I will go and find some Christy Moore - always up for something
new.

At least Dolores just stood there and sang rather well.


I've never seen Dolores just stand there at any of the live Cranberries'
concerts I've been to. Would be nice. She is one of the most energetic acts
I ever clapped eyes on. Radio mic in hand and not one inch of the stage left
unexplored. I've always been totally exhausted just watching her romp around
the place. Fit as a fiddle, as we say over here.

I've never been a Cranberries fan as such, and I've certainly never
seen them. Over here, though, she would be as fit as a butcher's dog.
Actually, if she'd tried running around on that pub stage she'd have
ended up behind the bar.

And it was Kabul (no, that was last year - '85 was Kuwait).

This year!! .... 'way down in a hole' ... (that's a song title btw, not by
a Celtic Yelp more an American spit and gravel voice)

Nothing to do with Saddam, then? Looks like Baghdad may be my next
port of call.

d

_____________________________

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Ian Bell wrote in message ...
Old Fart at Play wrote:

I don't know what goes on in recording studios these days
but I heard a chap on the radio say that a lot of automatic
pitch correction goes on for the benefit of tone deaf singers.
He also said that the effect is easy to recognise.


Cher released a song a year or so ago when the pitch corrector effect was
deliberately overdone.

Vocoder. Old bit of kit, much favoured by Joe Zawinul, the world's
most vocoded Austrian wooly hat wearer. The Cher effect is very
underdone, compared with Joe's oeuvre.

Steve.

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Ian Bell wrote in message ...
Old Fart at Play wrote:

I don't know what goes on in recording studios these days
but I heard a chap on the radio say that a lot of automatic
pitch correction goes on for the benefit of tone deaf singers.
He also said that the effect is easy to recognise.


Cher released a song a year or so ago when the pitch corrector effect was
deliberately overdone.

Vocoder. Old bit of kit, much favoured by Joe Zawinul, the world's
most vocoded Austrian wooly hat wearer. The Cher effect is very
underdone, compared with Joe's oeuvre.

Steve.

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Steve G wrote:

Cher released a song a year or so ago when the pitch corrector
effect was deliberately overdone.

Vocoder. Old bit of kit, much favoured by Joe Zawinul, the world's
most vocoded Austrian wooly hat wearer. The Cher effect is very
underdone, compared with Joe's oeuvre.

ISTR he favoured a Moog Vocoder although I gather he experimented with a
Bode when they were originally released, the Cher track didn't use one of
those :-)

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Steve G wrote:

Cher released a song a year or so ago when the pitch corrector
effect was deliberately overdone.

Vocoder. Old bit of kit, much favoured by Joe Zawinul, the world's
most vocoded Austrian wooly hat wearer. The Cher effect is very
underdone, compared with Joe's oeuvre.

ISTR he favoured a Moog Vocoder although I gather he experimented with a
Bode when they were originally released, the Cher track didn't use one of
those :-)