I don't know what goes on in recording studios these days
but I heard a chap on the radio say that a lot of automatic
pitch correction goes on for the benefit of tone deaf singers.
He also said that the effect is easy to recognise.

Can anyone suggest a good example that I might hear on the radio?
I presume that the effect is the yodelling sound where the voice
changes in mid-note but for all I know the singers might sound like
that naturally.

--
Roger.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:19:09 +0000, Old Fart at Play
wrote:

I don't know what goes on in recording studios these days
but I heard a chap on the radio say that a lot of automatic
pitch correction goes on for the benefit of tone deaf singers.
He also said that the effect is easy to recognise.

Can anyone suggest a good example that I might hear on the radio?
I presume that the effect is the yodelling sound where the voice
changes in mid-note but for all I know the singers might sound like
that naturally.

Every record in today's charts. Cher and others have used an extreme
version as a vocal effect (Do you believe in life after love, for
example).

d

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Don Pearce wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:19:09 +0000, Old Fart at Play
wrote:


I don't know what goes on in recording studios these days
but I heard a chap on the radio say that a lot of automatic
pitch correction goes on for the benefit of tone deaf singers.
He also said that the effect is easy to recognise.

Can anyone suggest a good example that I might hear on the radio?
I presume that the effect is the yodelling sound where the voice
changes in mid-note but for all I know the singers might sound like
that naturally.


Every record in today's charts. Cher and others have used an extreme
version as a vocal effect (Do you believe in life after love, for
example).


So "The closest approach to the original sound" is not what we want?
What about remasters? Do they fix the vocals?
What about old songs by the Cranberries? Surely that effect is real.

--
Roger.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:19:28 +0000, Old Fart at Play
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:19:09 +0000, Old Fart at Play
wrote:


I don't know what goes on in recording studios these days
but I heard a chap on the radio say that a lot of automatic
pitch correction goes on for the benefit of tone deaf singers.
He also said that the effect is easy to recognise.

Can anyone suggest a good example that I might hear on the radio?
I presume that the effect is the yodelling sound where the voice
changes in mid-note but for all I know the singers might sound like
that naturally.


Every record in today's charts. Cher and others have used an extreme
version as a vocal effect (Do you believe in life after love, for
example).


So "The closest approach to the original sound" is not what we want?
What about remasters? Do they fix the vocals?
What about old songs by the Cranberries? Surely that effect is real.

Unless you have access to the original separate tracks, then you can't
fix a vocalist already in a mix; you have to pitch-shift the whole
thing. It certainly can't be done at any mastering stage.

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

As for what we want - that is entirely a matter of choice - you can
have natural, or unnatural or anything in between.

d

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Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:07:46 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

Of course that s a cat of an entirely different colour. I have heard
her singing other music live, and you are right - she can really sing.

d

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:07:46 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

Of course that s a cat of an entirely different colour. I have heard
her singing other music live, and you are right - she can really sing.

d

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In message , Stimpy
writes
Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)



The first album was excellent (IMO of course)
--
Chris Morriss

In message , Stimpy
writes
Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)



The first album was excellent (IMO of course)
--
Chris Morriss

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)