Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

Arny Krueger wrote:

That's not the same as comparing reasonably good DACs.

It certainly isn't.


Do try to make your comments relevant to the topic described in the
title line, eh?

The topic described in the title line is one that I started, in which I
compare a cheap CD player with a reasonably good DAC. Callas's point would
have been rather more applicable if I was comparing two reasonably good
DACs. Which I wasn't.


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Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

Arny Krueger wrote:

That would depend on what you consider to be a "crap DVD player", no?

The DVD player is short on specs, other than quoting a noise figure of 70dB,
compared with the DAC's 94dB. Overall, it sounds dull compared with the DAC.


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Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

Arny Krueger wrote:

That would depend on what you consider to be a "crap DVD player", no?

The DVD player is short on specs, other than quoting a noise figure of 70dB,
compared with the DAC's 94dB. Overall, it sounds dull compared with the DAC.


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Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

Arny Krueger wrote:

While I realise that a biased opinion can occur in a non-blind test,
I don't think it's neccessarily so.

Depends on the size of the difference.

And on the listener's propensity to be swayed by things such as wanting to
feel that their spend is justified, or presupposing that the 'classy' bit of
kit is better.


There is quite a bit of middle ground. If you want to experience it
for yourself, please visit www.pcabx.com.

Thanks, I'll take a look.


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Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

Arny Krueger wrote:

While I realise that a biased opinion can occur in a non-blind test,
I don't think it's neccessarily so.

Depends on the size of the difference.

And on the listener's propensity to be swayed by things such as wanting to
feel that their spend is justified, or presupposing that the 'classy' bit of
kit is better.


There is quite a bit of middle ground. If you want to experience it
for yourself, please visit www.pcabx.com.

Thanks, I'll take a look.


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www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
On webcam: Black Cat In Coal Cellar

Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:13:24 -0500
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

Do try to make your comments relevant to the topic described in the title
line, eh?

Um. Wally started the thread, I think you just hoist yourself by your own petard ;-)


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Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:13:24 -0500
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

Do try to make your comments relevant to the topic described in the title
line, eh?

Um. Wally started the thread, I think you just hoist yourself by your own petard ;-)


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Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:13:24 -0500
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

Do try to make your comments relevant to the topic described in the
title
line, eh?

Um. Wally started the thread, I think you just hoist yourself by your own
petard ;-)


Just a tad.......

Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:13:24 -0500
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

Do try to make your comments relevant to the topic described in the
title
line, eh?

Um. Wally started the thread, I think you just hoist yourself by your own
petard ;-)


Just a tad.......

Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result
 

Arny Krueger wrote:

Basically you're flogging a deception along the lines of: "Look over there,
cake".

Where??

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