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Old January 2nd 04, 11:43 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Signor El Poke
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

Hi,

I'm looking for a mic new or used.
Used for vocal only.
I know its best to spend as uch as possible but
for this case about £50 is my limit.

Whats best to get? and from where?

--


Thanks,
Mark.

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Old January 2nd 04, 12:51 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

Look out for a good used Shure SM58 the workhorse of the audio industry.

Mike
"Signor El Poke" wrote in message
news
Hi,

I'm looking for a mic new or used.
Used for vocal only.
I know its best to spend as uch as possible but
for this case about £50 is my limit.

Whats best to get? and from where?

--


Thanks,
Mark.

kers
Remove knickers to reply.




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Old January 2nd 04, 07:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Signor El Poke
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

Hi all,


The SM 58 seems to be cropping up a lot.

I want it for vocal only, and for studio only.

I will be plugging it into a mixer, i have a mixer somewhere with a
phantom power output , do you recommend using that or should i get a psu if
needed?

I have seena few Shure PG58/57 on ebay cheap about £40 new, they claim they
are simlar spec to the SM58.

The B1 looks ok, i think i saw it with another name on it tho.

Any more of an idea anyone?



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Old January 9th 04, 10:31 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

In article ,
Signor El Poke wrote:
The SM 58 seems to be cropping up a lot.


It does. Often for all the wrong reasons. ;-)

I want it for vocal only, and for studio only.


Its primary application is as a rugged live vocal hand mic designed to
cancel out feedback from a PA system.

Non of these really apply for studio use and indeed bring disadvantages
with them.

I will be plugging it into a mixer, i have a mixer somewhere with a
phantom power output , do you recommend using that or should i get a psu
if needed?


If it's a half decent mixer, its phantom supply should be fine.

I have seena few Shure PG58/57 on ebay cheap about £40 new, they claim
they are simlar spec to the SM58.


The B1 looks ok, i think i saw it with another name on it tho.


Any more of an idea anyone?


Personally, I'd try and get one of the large diaphragm Chinese or Russian
condensers that can be switched to omni-directional.

--
*Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old January 9th 04, 10:31 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

In article ,
Signor El Poke wrote:
The SM 58 seems to be cropping up a lot.


It does. Often for all the wrong reasons. ;-)

I want it for vocal only, and for studio only.


Its primary application is as a rugged live vocal hand mic designed to
cancel out feedback from a PA system.

Non of these really apply for studio use and indeed bring disadvantages
with them.

I will be plugging it into a mixer, i have a mixer somewhere with a
phantom power output , do you recommend using that or should i get a psu
if needed?


If it's a half decent mixer, its phantom supply should be fine.

I have seena few Shure PG58/57 on ebay cheap about £40 new, they claim
they are simlar spec to the SM58.


The B1 looks ok, i think i saw it with another name on it tho.


Any more of an idea anyone?


Personally, I'd try and get one of the large diaphragm Chinese or Russian
condensers that can be switched to omni-directional.

--
*Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old January 2nd 04, 07:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Signor El Poke
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

Hi all,


The SM 58 seems to be cropping up a lot.

I want it for vocal only, and for studio only.

I will be plugging it into a mixer, i have a mixer somewhere with a
phantom power output , do you recommend using that or should i get a psu if
needed?

I have seena few Shure PG58/57 on ebay cheap about £40 new, they claim they
are simlar spec to the SM58.

The B1 looks ok, i think i saw it with another name on it tho.

Any more of an idea anyone?



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Old January 2nd 04, 12:51 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

Look out for a good used Shure SM58 the workhorse of the audio industry.

Mike
"Signor El Poke" wrote in message
news
Hi,

I'm looking for a mic new or used.
Used for vocal only.
I know its best to spend as uch as possible but
for this case about £50 is my limit.

Whats best to get? and from where?

--


Thanks,
Mark.

kers
Remove knickers to reply.




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Old January 2nd 04, 12:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Glenn Booth
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

Hi,

In message , Signor El Poke
writes
Hi,

I'm looking for a mic new or used.
Used for vocal only.
I know its best to spend as uch as possible but
for this case about £50 is my limit.

Whats best to get? and from where?


Tough questions! You don't say what you want to use it for (live or
recording?) or what you will connect it to, but here's somewhere to
start.

£50 will get you a decent second hand Shure SM58 from Ebay, which is an
industry-standard stage microphone, dynamic with a cardioid pattern. If
you look really hard you might find one for not much more than 50 quid
new. Ditto the SM57, which is similar but without the pop shield.

It will also (just) get you a new Studio Projects B1, a large diaphragm
condenser, more appropriate for recording purposes, but it requires
phantom power.

For stage use, you could also look at Sennheiser Evolution series
microphones. The 825 and 835 would fit your budget. Other brands with
mikes in that price range are AKG (D770/D880), Behringer (don't know
'em), and Beyer (TG-X58).

It would be easier if you could describe your intended uses for it -
recording and stage have different demands. Also, rule 1 is to try some!
Make sure it works well for the person who will use it. A 'better'
microphone (i.e. more ££) might not work as well for a certain person as
a cheaper model.

As to 'where to buy' check out the guitar, amp and keyboard centre
(www.gak.co.uk), Dawson's (www.dawsons.co.uk, I think) and digital
village (www.digitalvillage.co.uk).

Happy hunting!

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth
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Old January 9th 04, 06:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
2mb
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

This is very true...
recording and stage have different demands. Also, rule 1 is to try some!
Make sure it works well for the person who will use it. A 'better'
microphone (i.e. more ££) might not work as well for a certain person as


Some vocalists like to hold the mic while recording, some are used to not
and can effectively use mics where proximity effect is a bigger factor.
Sometimes a stage mic just sounds right and makes the vocalist more
comfortable. I have found that vocals go down better when the singer is at
ease and comfortable.

For some this means screaming into the mic while kissing it. All that
matters is the end result and how it sits in the mix. At the end of the day,
if the resulting material works, it just works.

I have one guy I work with that likes my 10 year old Audix mic. I think that
was like $75 USD when I bought it. He just likes it... rotten foam capsule
cover (thing is nasty under the screen, lots of gigs) and all. Can't argue
with that. That thing looks like it did time in a war zone. He feels that it
makes his vocals sound more like they do when he plays live. IMHO, anything
sounds good through a focusrite: )

Just remember to keep every mic you buy (as long as it does it's job). You
can always use another mic around the studio, especially in a pinch: ) You
will always be glad you have it when you will need it. I don't feel that a
cheap
mic is a bad investment at all. Just get whatever one sounds works for the
singer. If you can, get him/her to go to the store with you to try them out.

l8,
2mb




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Old January 9th 04, 06:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
2mb
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Default WTB/ADVICE: Mic wanted

This is very true...
recording and stage have different demands. Also, rule 1 is to try some!
Make sure it works well for the person who will use it. A 'better'
microphone (i.e. more ££) might not work as well for a certain person as


Some vocalists like to hold the mic while recording, some are used to not
and can effectively use mics where proximity effect is a bigger factor.
Sometimes a stage mic just sounds right and makes the vocalist more
comfortable. I have found that vocals go down better when the singer is at
ease and comfortable.

For some this means screaming into the mic while kissing it. All that
matters is the end result and how it sits in the mix. At the end of the day,
if the resulting material works, it just works.

I have one guy I work with that likes my 10 year old Audix mic. I think that
was like $75 USD when I bought it. He just likes it... rotten foam capsule
cover (thing is nasty under the screen, lots of gigs) and all. Can't argue
with that. That thing looks like it did time in a war zone. He feels that it
makes his vocals sound more like they do when he plays live. IMHO, anything
sounds good through a focusrite: )

Just remember to keep every mic you buy (as long as it does it's job). You
can always use another mic around the studio, especially in a pinch: ) You
will always be glad you have it when you will need it. I don't feel that a
cheap
mic is a bad investment at all. Just get whatever one sounds works for the
singer. If you can, get him/her to go to the store with you to try them out.

l8,
2mb




 




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