Yes, try the Yamaha HD CDr1300 - 120 hours of uncompressed audio. SPDIF &
TOSLINK in and out, and all the bells & whistles. 2 year waranty.

Good luck getting cash back from Sony!!!

Sold me a naff SACD player. told me they had "no control over the format of
SACD discs" and wouldn't take the machine back when it refused to play
SACD's



"Tim Hobbs" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:40:45 -0000, "Craig"
wrote:

Well I never got anywhere near writing software for it and the damn
things
screwed up.
I'm just getting a Format Error message. I guess its back to Sony unless
anyone knows a way out of it.
I'd got nearly 200 albums on it, makes you wonder if it's worth the
trouble


Craig


That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.


--
Tim Hobbs

Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Land Rovers? http://www.seriesii.co.uk

Good luck getting cash back from Sony!!!

Sold me a naff SACD player. told me they had "no control over the format of
SACD discs" and wouldn't take the machine back when it refused to play
SACD's



"Tim Hobbs" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:40:45 -0000, "Craig"
wrote:

Well I never got anywhere near writing software for it and the damn
things
screwed up.
I'm just getting a Format Error message. I guess its back to Sony unless
anyone knows a way out of it.
I'd got nearly 200 albums on it, makes you wonder if it's worth the
trouble


Craig


That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.


--
Tim Hobbs

Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Land Rovers? http://www.seriesii.co.uk

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.).........

You are probably sitting next to it! Add a big disk and Goldwave (or
similar) to your PC and with a decent sound card and your (hopefully still
FM) tuner conected to the back you will never miss a single program again.

All I need to do is teach my PC what I like on radio and get Digiguide to
tell Goldwave to start and stop recording......

"Chris Isbell" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:55:19 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Tim Hobbs wrote:

That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.

An iPod hooked up to your stereo would do exactly the same job with less
hassle ;-)

But an iPod has no S/PDIF output.

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.)


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.).........

You are probably sitting next to it! Add a big disk and Goldwave (or
similar) to your PC and with a decent sound card and your (hopefully still
FM) tuner conected to the back you will never miss a single program again.

All I need to do is teach my PC what I like on radio and get Digiguide to
tell Goldwave to start and stop recording......

"Chris Isbell" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:55:19 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Tim Hobbs wrote:

That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.

An iPod hooked up to your stereo would do exactly the same job with less
hassle ;-)

But an iPod has no S/PDIF output.

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.)


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK

"Chris Isbell" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:55:19 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Tim Hobbs wrote:

That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.

An iPod hooked up to your stereo would do exactly the same job with less
hassle ;-)

But an iPod has no S/PDIF output.

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.)


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK

whats the audio bandwidth of the Radio 3 FM transmissions? 16khz?
might as well use something like this http://www.stepvoice.com/
direct recording to MP3 192kbps is CD quality, this goes up to 256kbps.
regards malcolm

"Chris Isbell" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:55:19 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Tim Hobbs wrote:

That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.

An iPod hooked up to your stereo would do exactly the same job with less
hassle ;-)

But an iPod has no S/PDIF output.

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.)


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK

whats the audio bandwidth of the Radio 3 FM transmissions? 16khz?
might as well use something like this http://www.stepvoice.com/
direct recording to MP3 192kbps is CD quality, this goes up to 256kbps.
regards malcolm

"Chris Isbell" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:55:19 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Tim Hobbs wrote:

That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.

An iPod hooked up to your stereo would do exactly the same job with less
hassle ;-)

But an iPod has no S/PDIF output.

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.)


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK



http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/

live feeds and masses of archive programs

"Chris Isbell" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:55:19 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Tim Hobbs wrote:

That's what mine did. They've had it for 6 weeks now and it hasn't
come back. Unless they can tell me (and prove) what they have fixed
to prevent it happening again I intend to reject the machine (as I
originally requested at the store) and demand a refund either from
Sony or the credit card company. I don't believe it is 'fit for
purpose'.

An iPod hooked up to your stereo would do exactly the same job with less
hassle ;-)

But an iPod has no S/PDIF output.

Is there a hard disk recorder on the market at a reasonable price that
can record with lossless or no compression and has an S/PDIF input and
output?

I am looking for at least four hours of uncompressed/lossless
compression recording. (This just happens to be the length of CD
Review on Radio 3.)


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK



http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/

live feeds and masses of archive programs

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 12:31:53 +0000 (UTC), "db"
wrote:

Yes, try the Yamaha HD CDr1300 - 120 hours of uncompressed audio. SPDIF &
TOSLINK in and out, and all the bells & whistles. 2 year waranty.

Thanks. I took a look at its specification, price and even read the
user manual.

I could buy a PC for much the same price with S/PDIF I/O and a CD
writer. This would have the advantage of an Ethernet port - a missed
opportunity on the Yamaha device IMHO. It could also use cheaper
media.

This approach would have the advantage of using my existing DAC/ADC
and keeping the analogue signals well away from the PC.

(This idea has also been suggested by other contributors to this
thread.)

The main problems I can see a

* The extra effort required to assemble such a system - especially
the software.

* The fan (and disk) noise typical of most current PC systems.

* The inconvenient form factor, which will not fit well with my Hi-Fi
equipment.

However, I was shown a catalogue from Novatech earlier today which
contains PCs that look a bit like 'midi' audio systems, as found in
the high street chains (and typically sold as 'Hi-Fi'). Does anyone
have any experience of this type of system and its suitability for
inclusion in a Hi-Fi system?

Thanks,


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton
UK