DAB reception
 

grrrrrrrrrrr bloody grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. After finding out that our main
transmitter (Caradon Hill in sunny Cornwall) has now started broadcasting
DAB, as off mid december, I went out a got a DAB radio today. I did have
some nagging doubts in the back of my mind that I still wouldn't be able to
get a signal in my village (polperro), and surprise, surprise I can't! The
reason, the village is on the coast in a vally, like a large number of
places in Cornwall, we get our TV via a relay on top of the hill over
looking the village, again as a large number of places in Cornwall do, so NO
DAB and NO Freeview!

It's really getting on my tits now I'm fed up of seeing the adverts, paying
the theifing licnese fee and getting sod all. I had to get sky installed
because we can't get freeview, and that was a close thing, a large number of
houses in the village can't get sky because of the topology of the village,
grrrrrrrrrrrr

Has anyone got any ideas as to when local relays are going to be upgraded to
start providing services? I have a feeling our relay site shared between NTL
(and they're skint!) and the BBC

Kerry

DAB reception
 

In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes
grrrrrrrrrrr bloody grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. After finding out that our main
transmitter (Caradon Hill in sunny Cornwall) has now started broadcasting
DAB, as off mid december, I went out a got a DAB radio today. I did have
some nagging doubts in the back of my mind that I still wouldn't be able to
get a signal in my village (polperro), and surprise, surprise I can't! The
reason, the village is on the coast in a vally, like a large number of
places in Cornwall, we get our TV via a relay on top of the hill over
looking the village, again as a large number of places in Cornwall do, so NO
DAB and NO Freeview!

It's really getting on my tits now I'm fed up of seeing the adverts, paying
the theifing licnese fee and getting sod all. I had to get sky installed
because we can't get freeview, and that was a close thing, a large number of
houses in the village can't get sky because of the topology of the village,
grrrrrrrrrrrr

Has anyone got any ideas as to when local relays are going to be upgraded to
start providing services? I have a feeling our relay site shared between NTL
(and they're skint!) and the BBC

Kerry



O dear!, well FWIW Radio 3 is about the only programme service which is
listenable that is if 192K/bitz MP2 rocks your boat. As to freeview its
going to be a very long time yet before that many relays are thus
equipped. Its not down to ntl or Crown castle its how much the
broadcasters want to pay.

As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
external DAC can work some magic on.


As to Freeview sometimes a much higher gain and channelled aerial system
with amps and extra height may do the trick.

You can also get large multi element DAB aerials that can pull in sigs
in weaker areas but its only radio 3 that's much cop and FM is very bit
as good for that.

Which local relay do you use?.
--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes
grrrrrrrrrrr bloody grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. After finding out that our main
transmitter (Caradon Hill in sunny Cornwall) has now started broadcasting
DAB, as off mid december, I went out a got a DAB radio today. I did have
some nagging doubts in the back of my mind that I still wouldn't be able to
get a signal in my village (polperro), and surprise, surprise I can't! The
reason, the village is on the coast in a vally, like a large number of
places in Cornwall, we get our TV via a relay on top of the hill over
looking the village, again as a large number of places in Cornwall do, so NO
DAB and NO Freeview!

It's really getting on my tits now I'm fed up of seeing the adverts, paying
the theifing licnese fee and getting sod all. I had to get sky installed
because we can't get freeview, and that was a close thing, a large number of
houses in the village can't get sky because of the topology of the village,
grrrrrrrrrrrr

Has anyone got any ideas as to when local relays are going to be upgraded to
start providing services? I have a feeling our relay site shared between NTL
(and they're skint!) and the BBC

Kerry



O dear!, well FWIW Radio 3 is about the only programme service which is
listenable that is if 192K/bitz MP2 rocks your boat. As to freeview its
going to be a very long time yet before that many relays are thus
equipped. Its not down to ntl or Crown castle its how much the
broadcasters want to pay.

As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
external DAC can work some magic on.


As to Freeview sometimes a much higher gain and channelled aerial system
with amps and extra height may do the trick.

You can also get large multi element DAB aerials that can pull in sigs
in weaker areas but its only radio 3 that's much cop and FM is very bit
as good for that.

Which local relay do you use?.
--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

Our local relay is Polperro.

I'm toying with trying a DAB aerial, or piping sky down to the
kitchen, but either way is a bit of a pain, the whole idea of a
wireless is it has no wires. We don't get a fantastic FM signal in
the village either, I listen to 5 live mainly which tends to fade in
and out quite a bit so DAB would have solved this annoyance,
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

The problem of local relays needs addressing, maybe OFCOM should be
pulling its finger out with this one, and don't even get me started on
broadband!

Cheers

Kerry


tony sayer wrote in message ...
In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes
grrrrrrrrrrr bloody grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. After finding out that our main
transmitter (Caradon Hill in sunny Cornwall) has now started broadcasting
DAB, as off mid december, I went out a got a DAB radio today. I did have
some nagging doubts in the back of my mind that I still wouldn't be able to
get a signal in my village (polperro), and surprise, surprise I can't! The
reason, the village is on the coast in a vally, like a large number of
places in Cornwall, we get our TV via a relay on top of the hill over
looking the village, again as a large number of places in Cornwall do, so NO
DAB and NO Freeview!

It's really getting on my tits now I'm fed up of seeing the adverts, paying
the theifing licnese fee and getting sod all. I had to get sky installed
because we can't get freeview, and that was a close thing, a large number of
houses in the village can't get sky because of the topology of the village,
grrrrrrrrrrrr

Has anyone got any ideas as to when local relays are going to be upgraded to
start providing services? I have a feeling our relay site shared between NTL
(and they're skint!) and the BBC

Kerry



O dear!, well FWIW Radio 3 is about the only programme service which is
listenable that is if 192K/bitz MP2 rocks your boat. As to freeview its
going to be a very long time yet before that many relays are thus
equipped. Its not down to ntl or Crown castle its how much the
broadcasters want to pay.

As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
external DAC can work some magic on.


As to Freeview sometimes a much higher gain and channelled aerial system
with amps and extra height may do the trick.

You can also get large multi element DAB aerials that can pull in sigs
in weaker areas but its only radio 3 that's much cop and FM is very bit
as good for that.

Which local relay do you use?.

DAB reception
 

Our local relay is Polperro.

I'm toying with trying a DAB aerial, or piping sky down to the
kitchen, but either way is a bit of a pain, the whole idea of a
wireless is it has no wires. We don't get a fantastic FM signal in
the village either, I listen to 5 live mainly which tends to fade in
and out quite a bit so DAB would have solved this annoyance,
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

The problem of local relays needs addressing, maybe OFCOM should be
pulling its finger out with this one, and don't even get me started on
broadband!

Cheers

Kerry


tony sayer wrote in message ...
In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes
grrrrrrrrrrr bloody grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. After finding out that our main
transmitter (Caradon Hill in sunny Cornwall) has now started broadcasting
DAB, as off mid december, I went out a got a DAB radio today. I did have
some nagging doubts in the back of my mind that I still wouldn't be able to
get a signal in my village (polperro), and surprise, surprise I can't! The
reason, the village is on the coast in a vally, like a large number of
places in Cornwall, we get our TV via a relay on top of the hill over
looking the village, again as a large number of places in Cornwall do, so NO
DAB and NO Freeview!

It's really getting on my tits now I'm fed up of seeing the adverts, paying
the theifing licnese fee and getting sod all. I had to get sky installed
because we can't get freeview, and that was a close thing, a large number of
houses in the village can't get sky because of the topology of the village,
grrrrrrrrrrrr

Has anyone got any ideas as to when local relays are going to be upgraded to
start providing services? I have a feeling our relay site shared between NTL
(and they're skint!) and the BBC

Kerry



O dear!, well FWIW Radio 3 is about the only programme service which is
listenable that is if 192K/bitz MP2 rocks your boat. As to freeview its
going to be a very long time yet before that many relays are thus
equipped. Its not down to ntl or Crown castle its how much the
broadcasters want to pay.

As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
external DAC can work some magic on.


As to Freeview sometimes a much higher gain and channelled aerial system
with amps and extra height may do the trick.

You can also get large multi element DAB aerials that can pull in sigs
in weaker areas but its only radio 3 that's much cop and FM is very bit
as good for that.

Which local relay do you use?.

DAB reception
 

In article , Fancyabrew
writes
Our local relay is Polperro.

Right that a very small one. Don't see that being upgraded for a long
time to come yet.

I'm toying with trying a DAB aerial, or piping sky down to the
kitchen, but either way is a bit of a pain, the whole idea of a
wireless is it has no wires. We don't get a fantastic FM signal in
the village either, I listen to 5 live mainly which tends to fade in
and out quite a bit so DAB would have solved this annoyance,
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Well it looks as if...if you chose to live in these pretty out of the
way places then you have to put up with lack of some 21st century things
ducks!

The problem of local relays needs addressing, maybe OFCOM should be
pulling its finger out with this one, and don't even get me started on
broadband!


Don't get me started on Ofcom either:-(((((((((

Or broadband. SAT BB is getting quite reasonable now so a mate of mine
sez who lives out in the wilds of Norfolk, where DTV and DAB are things
yet to come, 'tho Sky is fine in the flatlands......

--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

In article , Fancyabrew
writes
Our local relay is Polperro.

Right that a very small one. Don't see that being upgraded for a long
time to come yet.

I'm toying with trying a DAB aerial, or piping sky down to the
kitchen, but either way is a bit of a pain, the whole idea of a
wireless is it has no wires. We don't get a fantastic FM signal in
the village either, I listen to 5 live mainly which tends to fade in
and out quite a bit so DAB would have solved this annoyance,
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Well it looks as if...if you chose to live in these pretty out of the
way places then you have to put up with lack of some 21st century things
ducks!

The problem of local relays needs addressing, maybe OFCOM should be
pulling its finger out with this one, and don't even get me started on
broadband!


Don't get me started on Ofcom either:-(((((((((

Or broadband. SAT BB is getting quite reasonable now so a mate of mine
sez who lives out in the wilds of Norfolk, where DTV and DAB are things
yet to come, 'tho Sky is fine in the flatlands......

--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year (I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

What annoys me is that the BBC is expanding and spending money on things
such as DAB and Freeview yet I and lots of other CAN'T get them, but we pay
the same thieving license fee

Kerry

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Fancyabrew
writes
Our local relay is Polperro.

Right that a very small one. Don't see that being upgraded for a long
time to come yet.

I'm toying with trying a DAB aerial, or piping sky down to the
kitchen, but either way is a bit of a pain, the whole idea of a
wireless is it has no wires. We don't get a fantastic FM signal in
the village either, I listen to 5 live mainly which tends to fade in
and out quite a bit so DAB would have solved this annoyance,
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Well it looks as if...if you chose to live in these pretty out of the
way places then you have to put up with lack of some 21st century things
ducks!

The problem of local relays needs addressing, maybe OFCOM should be
pulling its finger out with this one, and don't even get me started on
broadband!


Don't get me started on Ofcom either:-(((((((((

Or broadband. SAT BB is getting quite reasonable now so a mate of mine
sez who lives out in the wilds of Norfolk, where DTV and DAB are things
yet to come, 'tho Sky is fine in the flatlands......

--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year (I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

What annoys me is that the BBC is expanding and spending money on things
such as DAB and Freeview yet I and lots of other CAN'T get them, but we pay
the same thieving license fee

Kerry

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Fancyabrew
writes
Our local relay is Polperro.

Right that a very small one. Don't see that being upgraded for a long
time to come yet.

I'm toying with trying a DAB aerial, or piping sky down to the
kitchen, but either way is a bit of a pain, the whole idea of a
wireless is it has no wires. We don't get a fantastic FM signal in
the village either, I listen to 5 live mainly which tends to fade in
and out quite a bit so DAB would have solved this annoyance,
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Well it looks as if...if you chose to live in these pretty out of the
way places then you have to put up with lack of some 21st century things
ducks!

The problem of local relays needs addressing, maybe OFCOM should be
pulling its finger out with this one, and don't even get me started on
broadband!


Don't get me started on Ofcom either:-(((((((((

Or broadband. SAT BB is getting quite reasonable now so a mate of mine
sez who lives out in the wilds of Norfolk, where DTV and DAB are things
yet to come, 'tho Sky is fine in the flatlands......

--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

and your phone line is engaged, so add the cost of a second phone line...

DAB reception
 

"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

and your phone line is engaged, so add the cost of a second phone line...

DAB reception
 

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:37:27 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:


"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

and your phone line is engaged, so add the cost of a second phone line...

.... and there's considerable latency on d/l, and AFAIR there's a
ridiculously low monthly bandwidth quota. I suspect that apart from
very remote areas, satellite "broadband" is going to be a non-starter;
BT will (eventually) find ways of enabling ADSL at most of their
exchanges, as local wireless services introduce some real competition
....

Julian


--
Julian Fowler
julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk

DAB reception
 

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:37:27 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:


"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

and your phone line is engaged, so add the cost of a second phone line...

.... and there's considerable latency on d/l, and AFAIR there's a
ridiculously low monthly bandwidth quota. I suspect that apart from
very remote areas, satellite "broadband" is going to be a non-starter;
BT will (eventually) find ways of enabling ADSL at most of their
exchanges, as local wireless services introduce some real competition
....

Julian


--
Julian Fowler
julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk

DAB reception
 

In article , Julian Fowler
writes
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:37:27 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:


"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

and your phone line is engaged, so add the cost of a second phone line...

... and there's considerable latency on d/l, and AFAIR there's a
ridiculously low monthly bandwidth quota. I suspect that apart from
very remote areas, satellite "broadband" is going to be a non-starter;
BT will (eventually) find ways of enabling ADSL at most of their
exchanges, as local wireless services introduce some real competition
...

Like they did round here and were let down by government agency funders
after they had committed to spend and mysteriously BT start announcing
revised lower trigger levels etc:-((

Julian



--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

In article , Julian Fowler
writes
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:37:27 -0000, "Tim S Kemp"
wrote:


"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL. The only
trouble is you're limited on your upload speeds to the speed of your modem
33.6 or ISDN if you're using that.

and your phone line is engaged, so add the cost of a second phone line...

... and there's considerable latency on d/l, and AFAIR there's a
ridiculously low monthly bandwidth quota. I suspect that apart from
very remote areas, satellite "broadband" is going to be a non-starter;
BT will (eventually) find ways of enabling ADSL at most of their
exchanges, as local wireless services introduce some real competition
...

Like they did round here and were let down by government agency funders
after they had committed to spend and mysteriously BT start announcing
revised lower trigger levels etc:-((

Julian



--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:23:31 -0000
"Kerry Hoskin" wrote:


I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year (I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL.

priced the same? since when?

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DAB reception
 

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:23:31 -0000
"Kerry Hoskin" wrote:


I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year (I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL.

priced the same? since when?

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DAB reception
 

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:55:15 +0000
Julian Fowler wrote:

and there's considerable latency on d/l

no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)

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DAB reception
 

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:55:15 +0000
Julian Fowler wrote:

and there's considerable latency on d/l

no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)

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DAB reception
 

I wish I could remember the name of the company, the show was in Exeter back
in the autumn. Prices for 256, 512 and 1mb were on par with ADSL. The
system uses your existing Sky dish but you do need a dual lnb.

Kerry

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:23:31 -0000
"Kerry Hoskin" wrote:


I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL.

priced the same? since when?

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ketchup.

DAB reception
 

I wish I could remember the name of the company, the show was in Exeter back
in the autumn. Prices for 256, 512 and 1mb were on par with ADSL. The
system uses your existing Sky dish but you do need a dual lnb.

Kerry

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:23:31 -0000
"Kerry Hoskin" wrote:


I've seen broadband via SKY demoed at an IT event I attended last year
(I'm
an IT Manager) its very impressive and priced the same as ADSL.

priced the same? since when?

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ketchup.

DAB reception
 

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:41:37 -0000
"Kerry Hoskin" wrote:

I wish I could remember the name of the company, the show was in Exeter back
in the autumn. Prices for 256, 512 and 1mb were on par with ADSL. The
system uses your existing Sky dish but you do need a dual lnb.

Oh, so not skys own service. the prices Ive seen are like 600ukp setup and 50ukp/month for 256kbit.

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DAB reception
 

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:41:37 -0000
"Kerry Hoskin" wrote:

I wish I could remember the name of the company, the show was in Exeter back
in the autumn. Prices for 256, 512 and 1mb were on par with ADSL. The
system uses your existing Sky dish but you do need a dual lnb.

Oh, so not skys own service. the prices Ive seen are like 600ukp setup and 50ukp/month for 256kbit.

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DAB reception
 

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:01:34 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

:)As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
:)to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
:)the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
:)external DAC can work some magic on.
:)

Can one get Broadband or a telephone service via satellite ?
--
Comm again, Mike.

DAB reception
 

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:01:34 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

:)As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
:)to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
:)the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
:)external DAC can work some magic on.
:)

Can one get Broadband or a telephone service via satellite ?
--
Comm again, Mike.

DAB reception
 

In article , pmailkeey mike@pmail
keey.freeserve.co.yuk writes
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:01:34 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

:)As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
:)to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
:)the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
:)external DAC can work some magic on.
:)

Can one get Broadband or a telephone service via satellite ?

BB yes, but you need a phone line to get the return path on, sat phone
is around, but not for domestic usage....
--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

In article , pmailkeey mike@pmail
keey.freeserve.co.yuk writes
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:01:34 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

:)As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
:)to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
:)the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
:)external DAC can work some magic on.
:)

Can one get Broadband or a telephone service via satellite ?

BB yes, but you need a phone line to get the return path on, sat phone
is around, but not for domestic usage....
--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:58:39 +0000
tony sayer wrote:


BB yes, but you need a phone line to get the return path on, sat phone
is around, but not for domestic usage....

Im told the sky solution needs no phone backchannel (no idea how accurate that info is)

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DAB reception
 

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:58:39 +0000
tony sayer wrote:


BB yes, but you need a phone line to get the return path on, sat phone
is around, but not for domestic usage....

Im told the sky solution needs no phone backchannel (no idea how accurate that info is)

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DAB reception
 

In article , Ian Molton
writes
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:58:39 +0000
tony sayer wrote:


BB yes, but you need a phone line to get the return path on, sat phone
is around, but not for domestic usage....

Im told the sky solution needs no phone backchannel (no idea how accurate that
info is)


I very, very, much doubt that you'll be transmitting toward the sky sat
unless you're paying very serious money.....

--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

In article , Ian Molton
writes
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:58:39 +0000
tony sayer wrote:


BB yes, but you need a phone line to get the return path on, sat phone
is around, but not for domestic usage....

Im told the sky solution needs no phone backchannel (no idea how accurate that
info is)


I very, very, much doubt that you'll be transmitting toward the sky sat
unless you're paying very serious money.....

--
Tony Sayer

DAB reception
 

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:33:57 +0000
tony sayer wrote:

Im told the sky solution needs no phone backchannel (no idea how
accurate that info is)


I very, very, much doubt that you'll be transmitting toward the sky
sat unless you're paying very serious money.....

the numbers I was told were 600ukp installation and 50ukp / mo for
pretty conservative bandwidth.

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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

DAB reception
 

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:33:57 +0000
tony sayer wrote:

Im told the sky solution needs no phone backchannel (no idea how
accurate that info is)


I very, very, much doubt that you'll be transmitting toward the sky
sat unless you're paying very serious money.....

the numbers I was told were 600ukp installation and 50ukp / mo for
pretty conservative bandwidth.

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

DAB reception
 

Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:55:15 +0000
Julian Fowler wrote:

and there's considerable latency on d/l

no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)

Perhaps I've missed a giggle here, but surely the satellite has to be
the same distance away from earth as the moon? :

faux-pasingly yours,
N.

--

DAB reception
 

Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:55:15 +0000
Julian Fowler wrote:

and there's considerable latency on d/l

no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)

Perhaps I've missed a giggle here, but surely the satellite has to be
the same distance away from earth as the moon? :

faux-pasingly yours,
N.

--

DAB reception
 

Nick J. wrote:


no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a
decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)


Perhaps I've missed a giggle here, but surely the satellite has to be
the same distance away from earth as the moon? :


Not quite.

The moon orbits the earth once a month.
A geostationary satellite orbits once a day
so it has to be much closer.

DAB reception
 

Nick J. wrote:


no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a
decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)


Perhaps I've missed a giggle here, but surely the satellite has to be
the same distance away from earth as the moon? :


Not quite.

The moon orbits the earth once a month.
A geostationary satellite orbits once a day
so it has to be much closer.

DAB reception
 

Old Fart at Play wrote:

Nick J. wrote:


no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a
decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)

Perhaps I've missed a giggle here, but surely the satellite has to be
the same distance away from earth as the moon? :

Not quite.

The moon orbits the earth once a month.
A geostationary satellite orbits once a day
so it has to be much closer.

I wish I could blame alcohol, drugs, or tiredness for that.

But I cannot.

Happy New Year.

--
Now Playing: 09 - Iggy Pop - The Passenger [205kbps 44kHz]

DAB reception
 

Old Fart at Play wrote:

Nick J. wrote:


no great surprise - the backchannel is slow, and the satellite is a
decent fraction of the way to the moon ;-)

Perhaps I've missed a giggle here, but surely the satellite has to be
the same distance away from earth as the moon? :

Not quite.

The moon orbits the earth once a month.
A geostationary satellite orbits once a day
so it has to be much closer.

I wish I could blame alcohol, drugs, or tiredness for that.

But I cannot.

Happy New Year.

--
Now Playing: 09 - Iggy Pop - The Passenger [205kbps 44kHz]

DAB reception
 

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:58:39 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

:)In article , pmailkeey mike@pmail
:)keey.freeserve.co.yuk writes
:)On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:01:34 +0000, tony sayer
:)wrote:
:)
:):)As to Satellite and Sky this service has all the radio you'll be likely
:):)to need and in the case of BBC services they are at higher rates over
:):)the DAB services. Some Sky receivers have digi optical outs to which an
:):)external DAC can work some magic on.
:):)
:)
:)Can one get Broadband or a telephone service via satellite ?
:)
:)BB yes, but you need a phone line to get the return path on

?????? !!!!!!!!
--
Comm again, Mike.