Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , "Mike Cawood,
HND BIT" wrote:


Double sided sticky has been used for many years to hold things
together, it's cheap and (usually) permanent. Mike.

I tend to agree. The lables on my Spendor LS3/5A's are held on with double
sided tape. Mind you, I only know this as they fell off and I had to stick
them back on again... ;-

Slainte,

Jim


Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards

Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

"Terry" wrote in message ...
Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards

Not all industrial adhesives are the same. Performance and quality
vary according to design and cost. Adhesives are often used where they
provide better performance than traditional fixing methods.

Can't comment specifically on Arcams use of adhesive tape, but if it
was chosen with the care they apply to the rest of their design then I
think it will do the job well.

Regards

Chris

Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

"Chris Frost remove NOSPAM" wrote in message
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"Terry" wrote in message
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Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards

Not all industrial adhesives are the same. Performance and quality
vary according to design and cost. Adhesives are often used where they
provide better performance than traditional fixing methods.

Can't comment specifically on Arcams use of adhesive tape, but if it
was chosen with the care they apply to the rest of their design then I
think it will do the job well.



Yes, much as I don't like the idea of 'double-sided sticky' tape myself, it
simply isn't reasonable to dismiss the use of such adhesives in industrial
(or construction) situations - for instance, most modern cars rely on
adhesives in dozens of different places, starting with the 'rear view
mirror' which is usually just stuck to the windscreen and they will subject
the 'stuck' components to far more stress and heat than a simple bit of hifi
kit........




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Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

Yes, much as I don't like the idea of 'double-sided sticky' tape myself, it
simply isn't reasonable to dismiss the use of such adhesives in industrial
(or construction) situations - for instance, most modern cars rely on
adhesives in dozens of different places, starting with the 'rear view
mirror' which is usually just stuck to the windscreen and they will subject
the 'stuck' components to far more stress and heat than a simple bit of hifi
kit........


I think the OP would be rather horrified to see the extent to which
adhesives are used in the aerospace and automotive industries.

Also double-sided tape is easily available in repair shops (who may
one day need to get that front panel off), leaves no visible screws at
the front, is easily applied by machines, has fewer Health and Safety
issues than liquid adhesives and is easier to rework if there is a
quality issue.

The other method is to use a snap-fit connector on the front panel,
but once these break (which IME they always do) the front panel is
buggered. I've broken lots of computers like this. Double-sided
sticky tape usually sorts it though!


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Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:35:17 +0000, Tim Hobbs
wrote:

I think the OP would be rather horrified to see the extent to which
adhesives are used in the aerospace and automotive industries.


True. My recent windscreen replacement was a glue job. And I was
warned not to drive too far or fast without the glass fitted - it's a
necessary and integral part of the body.

Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

On 14 Jan 2004 07:56:35 -0800, (Marco
Cinnirella) wrote:

Hi all,

I've been reading threads on this news group from last year which
raised a few issues about the build quality of Arcam CD players. One
poster in particular kept banging on about how the front fascia on his
Arcam CD player was only attached by double-sided sticky tape. I also
noted with interest that some claims were made by posters that many
Arcam products were manufactured 'on the cheap' by OEM manufacturers
in the far east. However someone from Arcam posted a reply saying that
this was wrong and that almost all Arcam products are made at the
Arcam HQ in Cambridge, U.K. I wonder where the CD73 is made - it
doesn't say anywheer on the device or the packaging!?

I've just bought a Diva CD73T CD Player, and it feels solid in build
quality, but I'm intrigued to know from other Arcam owners what their
experiences are. I hope I haven't bought a lemon! I certainly like the
sound quality, but I can't afford to replace it after a couple of
years if it goes wrong - I want to get at least 5 years out of it!

Cheers,

Marco.

I love my ARCAM DV88 DVD player. Very solid build quality and the
sound from CDs, stunning.

Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

"Chris Frost remove NOSPAM" wrote in message
m...
"Terry" wrote in message
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Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards

Not all industrial adhesives are the same. Performance and quality
vary according to design and cost. Adhesives are often used where they
provide better performance than traditional fixing methods.

Can't comment specifically on Arcams use of adhesive tape, but if it
was chosen with the care they apply to the rest of their design then I
think it will do the job well.

Regards

Chris

What standard of adhesive tape do you think
the typical service dept will use. ?

Regards

Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:51:17 -0000, "Terry"
wrote:

What standard of adhesive tape do you think
the typical service dept will use. ?

For sticking a front-plate on, anything handy I expect. Because it
doesn't really matter a damn whether it falls off :-)

For repairing a component where a specialised adhesive is indicated,
they'd use the right one. Just like windscreen replacers, plastic
window installers etc, etc. do.

Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

I love my ARCAM DV88 DVD player. Very solid build quality and the
sound from CDs, stunning.

I just bought one over Xmas. I love it too, but its so sloowwww to
operate and the remote is crap and very directional.

Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?
 

David wrote:
I love my ARCAM DV88 DVD player. Very solid build quality and the
sound from CDs, stunning.

I just bought one over Xmas. I love it too, but its so sloowwww to
operate and the remote is crap and very directional.

Blimey, you need to try a Roksan remote - mine has a limp, uses a walking
stick and needs glasses :-)


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MrBitsy